Is taking the Train to Disneyland worth it?

[00:00:03] It's time for the show that brings the magic right to your speakers, EarzUp! Whoa, what's going on everybody? It is 9.07 on a Sunday morning, coming at you. The hottest place to be right now if you're on the internet is in the EarzUp Google Chat Meet Zoom meeting for this show.

[00:00:28] Because we have basically everybody that's ever been on the show ever in the entire universe on right now with us today. It's a big show. Yeah, I know. We have a couple people to welcome back too. First of all, Ryan is here. If you are watching live, he is not topless. I tried to put it into his contract to be topless, but he refused to sign. That's only for the Patreon showcase. That's right. That's right. You can tell the weather is nice in Colorado because Ryan's guns are out.

[00:00:59] There you go. He's popping them. Anyway, what's going on everybody? Wait, what did I say? Hold on. I messed up. I messed up my whole intro because it's my turn in the draft. Jason. Okay. Oh my God. Also returning, as you can hear yelling at me, my old work wife from the Brewing Network and old and very popular co-host on this show, Beverly. Hi.

[00:01:27] Well, not old as in like age-wise, but as in the timeline of this show. Well, age-wise too. I mean, it all lines up. Look, I didn't want to say it. You know what I mean? What's going on, Bev? Welcome back, Bev. Thank you. Hi. And then another outstanding shout out and a welcome back to our much aligned, maligned, aligned? Both. Maligned. I don't know, man. Co-host Eric. Eric, my man, you have been gone for a couple of days now. Yes.

[00:01:54] The good RGH has been filling in for you. He's been doing a fantastic job, but he doesn't have the hair for it. So, you know. Yeah, I'm not sure. We got you back. You've been stuck in Florida before we start with Bev, which by the way, we are talking about Bev's. Finally, Bev's trip down to LA via train, which sounds like awesome thing to do. And I kind of want to do it. It does sound pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. But Eric, what's been going on? You've been you've been stuck in Florida like that Tom Hanks movie where he lives in the

[00:02:24] airport for five years or whatever it was. Oh, OK. Was that what was that? The Terminal? Yeah. I think it was the Terminator where he was like, you know, have you seen this passport? Yes, that's probably that's probably closer. Thanks for the Tom Hanks impression. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see. So we were supposed to have our entire family vacation out to out to Disney World. Brandy and I went to Universal for a few.

[00:02:52] We're supposed to go to Universal for a few days before that. Along the way, I had myself a fabulous seizure my first night there and basically had to be sedated for a week and a half. Oh, my goodness. Eric. Eric.

[00:03:16] And then brought out of sedation and then put into physical therapy to regain the use of my body and speech and all that good stuff. So, wow. I spent three weeks in Florida laying in bed and teaching myself how to walk again as hard as I could because I needed to get out of Florida. Wow. In the middle of August.

[00:03:45] He spent three weeks in Florida not going to Disney World. Yeah. Yes, correct. And paying for it. Right. Oh. Jeez. Dude, that's brutal, man. I am sorry to hear that. Yeah. So I'd like to apologize to my wife who basically stuck by my side through the entire thing until she had to come back and go to work. Oh, my gosh. And then my parents who they kind of traded off during the Disney days so they could be

[00:04:12] with the rest of the family and the kids and everything. Yeah. And then my dad stayed with me at the physical therapy hospital, you know, helping motivate me through physical rehab. Oh. Like, I'm literally using a walker and they're teaching me how to like, all right, okay, here's how you bend over and take plates out of a dishwasher. I'm like, okay, let's try this. Wow, dude. Yeah.

[00:04:41] It was a rough few weeks, but I didn't want to be, they said it could be at least like two weeks and I just pushed and got out of there and in less than that for another two weeks. So in sedation, is that like a medically induced coma or am I too much TV rot? It wasn't, it was similar to a medically induced coma. It wasn't fully that.

[00:05:09] I was apparently kind of aware for, for several days they wanted to monitor me because I had an aphasia, which means I thought I was speaking English, but was not. Oh, what were you speaking? Just like gibberish? Gibberish. Yeah. Oh, do they, did they record it by the way? No, no. But my wife has horrific memories of, of that. So that's great. I'm fascinated by it. So is it just to put a fine point on it?

[00:05:34] Is it, is it like just nonsense sounds or just words that don't mean, you know, like spaghetti? It's word parts. Okay. Yeah. Okay. It's, it's like a baby learning how to talk where they think they're, you know, they think they're telling you something and, you know, they're, they're not saying anything, you know, they think they're saying something of value and you're like, I don't get it, buddy. There's no pattern to these syllables. Let me tell you something. That's also an eight year old.

[00:06:04] They think they're telling you something of value, but you're like, that's, that's great, dude. I appreciate whatever you're saying right now, but I'm literally trying to stare at the wall. So, but yeah, you know, probably on more sedation than I needed, but they wanted to make sure that everything kind of came back together. Yeah. It was, my wife said it was a bad enough seizure and it went on long enough that they were pretty concerned. But, but yeah, once I came back online, I still didn't quite get things.

[00:06:31] I was quite confused and they had to back off on a lot of different meds. And once all that got out of my system, we found I like had no balance, no like coordination, nothing like that. So I had to relearn how to do all of that stuff. Wow. Wow. What a trip, dude. Yeah. Yeah. I'm, I'm mostly back to, to walking shape. Okay. That's good. No Walker or anything, or are you still? No, no.

[00:07:00] I tested out of Walker and Kane while I was there. So, um, yeah, it was, um, it was hard work, but you know, I was determined to get, to get out of there. Once I saw that I could make progress, I'm like, oh, okay. Like this place thankfully specializes in like stroke patients and patients who have had various forms of brain damage. So I kind of fell in the miscellaneous camp where they were like, we don't know if he's had brain damage.

[00:07:29] You're, you're too powerful to be put in one corner, but you're too weak in the other. Right. Right. So I caught on pretty quickly and like, it was nice to see that I hadn't lost that much strength. Oh, that's good. Like it didn't take much for me to get strong again. It was all balance and coordination. So I thought I was just like weak, but really it was just my brain couldn't like handle like me turning my head would make me dizzy and I could fall down. Stuff like that.

[00:07:55] Was this like a, a one-off, like a one-time thing, or is this something that you have to be concerned about now? Well, we'll, we'll keep working at it and seeing, but it's certainly they've kind of figured that the travel and basically dehydration contributed a lot to. Oh, wow. Dehydration? Dehydration. Yeah. It kind of kicked me over the edge because they, they said I was way dehydrated.

[00:08:21] I remember basically just waking up in the morning, having a cup of coffee and leaving the house. And then I slept for most of the plane ride and didn't take, you know, my customary tiny cup of coffee and water or whatever. It's a four hour flight. So they usually come back around with a little, another tiny cup of water. Yeah. But yeah, I was like sucking down water when we ate like a, an early dinner before we went over to universal.

[00:08:50] Um, cause we were staying close by and then we went on one ride and Brandy's like, you're shaky. You gotta get, you gotta get out of here. And, and I had a seizure in the hotel room. So it was great. What I'm hearing is your body rejected universal. Yeah, that's right. This would never have happened in Roy's Epcot. I tell you what, right now. But it was after riding the VelociCoaster. How could anything be bad after that?

[00:09:18] Well, I'm glad that you, first of all, I'm glad that you made it to your hotel room. Yeah. Yeah. To have a, you know, basically your transmission fall out or whatever. That, cause that could have been, that could have been, you know, worse somehow just doing it full on in the park, man. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but they, yeah, it was, it was crazy cause I didn't wake up until I was in the emergency department.

[00:09:45] Um, apparently I was awake. I have no memory of anything. Once we left the park. It sounds like that maybe the, the, the dehydration, like you said, the doctor's said contributed to the seizure, but I wonder if it was like, maybe just advanced the seizure that you would have had anyway. And maybe it would have put you in the hospital longer. That's how I think about it. It's possible. I'm not smart. So I don't know if that matters.

[00:10:11] With, with seizures, there's a lot of like, kind of like, here's the threshold. What, all of these things add up to you passing that threshold. Um, so it's all multifactorial. And that was possibly a thing that I'm not normally dehydrated. I drink a lot of water and I don't normally do this. Isn't that so frustrating when like your underlying cause is something that like you would, it's just annoying.

[00:10:38] I got pulled over once and I just out of habit undid my seatbelt so I could get my registration like to, to lean over to get my registration. And the cop comes up and he goes, you're not wearing your seatbelt. I'm like, what? Seatbelt law was 1983. That was when I was born. Like I've literally never not worn a seatbelt. You're like, I was just leaning over to get my gun officer. To show you.

[00:11:05] See that like if I, if I had a seizure from dehydration, I would be like, what the actual F? Because. Yeah. It's a bunch of stuff. Slow down. I drink a lot of water. Yeah. Anyway. And that day I drank almost zero water. So that sure didn't help things. Oh man. Well see, and I'm just training my body because I'm in a perpetual state of dehydration. So this will never happen to me. There you go. Great. Or maybe when it does, you won't rebound as fast as air. Like right now I'm like, I should probably drink some water.

[00:11:35] You used to have that giant thing. Like it was bigger than your head. Yeah. And it had like, like striation marks of like, you got this girl. Go for it. Look, I'm not saying I haven't tried. I just suck and don't do it. So now I'm just. We'll try doing that on a straw dipped in water and then you might be fine. Anyway, Eric, I'm glad you're feeling better. I'm glad you're on the road to recovery. It sounds like things are going pretty well. And hopefully this won't happen again to you. But I think, I think Ryan's right.

[00:12:04] I think it's just universal. Didn't really agree with. Yeah. I guess can't go to universal anymore. Oh, well. That was one of the factors. That's right. Or you should sue them for. Oh, it's their fault. Yes. It's their fault. It was the Velociraptor. Coaster. The Velociraptor. Velociraptor. Yeah. It's just a roller coaster. Just bust a rhymes rapping real fast.

[00:12:32] A high velocity. He's like, I can't take it. My brain. I can't understand what he's saying. It's too fast. Slow it down, sir. I gotta go. I gotta get out of here, dude. Anyway. Well, Bev, welcome back to the show once more. Thanks. I wanted to have you on because you made the mistake of telling me an interesting story. Oh, my gosh. Why do I do this? I don't know.

[00:13:01] But you. So this was a couple months ago, I think. Right. May. May. OK. You went down to L.A. to go to the parks with your lovely daughter, Abigail. Yes. I'm assuming she's lovely. I haven't actually seen her in several years. She is still lovely. She started high school this week. Oh, my God. I know. Our little tiny flower girl started high school. Oh, man. Anyway. And you had a hell of a journey. Tell me about it, please. You didn't have a hell of a journey.

[00:13:31] So, you know, I hate driving down to Disneyland. It sucks. Yeah. It really does, though. That's the thing about it. And my car is also of the sucking variety. Yeah. It would be cheeks. Cheeks. As the kids would say, I would never call it cheeks. But I would. Yeah. It's buns, actually. Totally. Mm-hmm.

[00:13:59] And so, typically, like, when we would take a long car ride, we rent a car. So, there's an expense there. And so, I kind of was like, well, you know, what's the cost of driving and parking for the week and gas versus taking a flight? Or, for the heck of it, let's see what a train is. And it was the train was the cheapest option. It wasn't significantly cheaper. It was, you know, it was closed. They were all kind of closed. But the train was slightly cheaper.

[00:14:29] So, I booked it. We flew. I'm sorry. We left. I think we had to be at the train station at 5 a.m. Oh, ew. Yeah. It was cool. What train station? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Martinez. Oh, okay. Okay. All right. So, you're right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, it was, I mean, it sucked, but it was fine. Yeah. We got there. We boarded the train. There was no issues. And then from Martinez to L.A.

[00:14:59] So, when you're booking a train, at least from our area, there's pretty much, if you don't want to take a bus from Bakersfield, you can take the train to Bakersfield and then a bus the rest of the way, there is one straight shot train. So, you commit to it. Like, that's my train. I would literally rather walk from Bakersfield than take a Greyhound from Bakersfield. One million percent. There is no way. So, I was like, it was either take a bus from Bakersfield if I wanted to leave earlier or later, or we leave at 5 a.m. and we take a train the whole way. So, I was like, cool, cool, cool.

[00:15:29] We'll take the train. 5 a.m. Looking great. It's a 14-hour journey. Okay. So, the train took 14 hours to L.A. It is certainly not a shorter method of travel, but I was like, whatever. I'll have a couple glasses of wine. We'll eat some food. We'll play some games. We'll nap. It'll be fine. Yeah. So, for the most part, that's kind of what happened. And, you know, we just chilled and it was, it was, it was actually, it was great. So, hang on a second. Very relaxing. Hang on a second.

[00:15:58] Just for context for people who don't live in the Bay Area. It normally takes from where, where we all, where Bev and Taryn and I live to Disneyland. It takes about six hours. Six, six and a half hours. Six, seven. Depending on how, if you want to stop at Bravo Farms. You know what I mean? It is a crap drive. It is. And I've said it for you. It's, I call it soul sucking because when you're driving down, the sun is, is like a chest

[00:16:26] level the whole time and I can feel my energy leaving my chest from the sun. It's like, I'm, it's like the opposite of Samson. Like, I'm giving the energy to the sun. It's killing me. I hate it. 100%. Yeah. And it's one of those things where like you spend six hours in the car, but you feel like you spent 32 and you, all you want to do is sleep when you're done. You're just like, I hate everything. It's like a day how your feet, your butt feels how your feet feel after a day at Disneyland. Yeah. Oh my God. You guys are so funny.

[00:16:55] Like I made this drive so many times in my life that I, I realized at some point I was in my early twenties that it's literally all you have to do is listen to five records and you'll be home. And it's like, not that bad. Five records, five records, five CDs, five CDs in your home. Like it's not that bad. I feel after that drive, like the little gelflings in the dark crystal and the little, you know, just like shriveled and in pain.

[00:17:24] I hate it. So if I could again, I, yes, I'm, I'm being dramatic. It's, but it's still a crappy drive. Sure, dude. So like, if I can chill and I did a lot of research, the chairs are hella nice. Uh, they recline, they have like a, a leg like thing. So you're basically like in a lazy boy the whole time. Was this coach or did you get like an upgrade? Oh no, it was coach. The upgrade was crazy. Yeah. Oh wow. Was it, was it the surf liner that you took?

[00:17:53] It was the surf liner. Yes. Okay. Um, so we spend several hours. Oh, one thing I will say is if you're in coach unless, uh, yeah. If, unless you are renting, um, a sleeper room or whatever, you don't get to like, you don't get a meal time. You're pretty much at the mercy of the snack cabin or whatever they have. So we had, I had a hot dog and a microwave pizza.

[00:18:21] Like it was not fine dining for sure. They said that you could go to the, to the dining car and ask if there was, if they could squeeze you in. I did. They never came back and talked to me. That's like, it just reminds me of like being in elementary school and like, you know, seeing the kids who couldn't afford lunch. Can I just get like a, you know, like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich? Can I just get the box of milk? Are you going to eat that?

[00:18:49] Are you going to eat those leftovers? Please ma'am, disembark from my general vicinity while I am dining in the car. The pools are after us, Veronica. With your hot dog. So we ride the train. We had a train. Transfer. Transfer is the word. Sure, dude. In Los Angeles.

[00:19:17] But we had an hour layover and this was after like 12 hours of training. Yeah. Cross training. And so I was sitting there with Abby and I was like, dude, how much, how far is it from, how far are we from Disneyland right now? So I looked it up and I was like, no, how much is an Uber? Dang.

[00:19:45] And in 40 minutes we were there. Like by the time we got there, we would have just been boarding our train, which would have then taken another hour. Nice. I will say I was kind of over it. But it was still a great experience. I still really did enjoy it. I've thought about if I would do it again. And I think that if I did it again, I would fly there and then take the train back because the train ride home was great because I slept the whole way.

[00:20:15] Ah, okay. Yeah, I could see that. It was the train ride back was nice. Because you were the way you were texting me was like the world was ending. It was like you were in the Langoliers and you saw the past just disintegrating behind you. You're like, I need to be home right now. Oh, the train. Okay. So after my copious amounts of napping. Yeah. Towards like hour eight. I was like, okay, I'm ready to be home.

[00:20:42] Although the ride, the ride back home was more exciting. I watched somebody get ejected from the train. No, that's sick. Like on purpose or like they just like fell and they hit a bump and. Oh no, he was good friends with Metheny. Yeah. Okay. All right. Oh dear. Yeah. So that was something. That's wild, dude. Okay. So, I mean, and you know, this isn't a secret, but you can nap. You're a good net. You're a napper. You love a nap. I love a nap. Yeah.

[00:21:12] So even you queen of the naps got tired of napping. You're like, I can only sleep so much. I can only be so powerful. You know, if the, and this is such a ridiculous thing to say, but if those lazy boy recliners reclined just a little farther, I would have slept the whole way. But my back kind of started to hurt. I'm old now, dude. Yeah. I know. So how did, how did teenage Abby feel about this whole trip? She had a great time.

[00:21:42] She had a bunch of movies that she had downloaded to the iPad and she just watched movies and we played some games and we went into the observation car for a while. She had a great time. Oh, good. The observation car. What do you do in the observation car? You observe. Okay. Well, look, I was hoping for a little bit more of that. It's a big glass car. And so it's just the, and the seats don't face, you know, the front of the train or the back of the train. They kind of face out.

[00:22:10] So you can kind of look out the windows and see the passing by nature. There's also tables in there. You can eat in there. That's where we play cards. Oh, cool. Well, that's nice. I'm surprised it wasn't dominoes. But you didn't want to take the car because that ride is boring. But then you go up and look at the, you look at the, at the quote nature, which is just brown flatland. But that's not where the train goes. We go, it goes along the coast. Yeah. It's beautiful.

[00:22:40] Yeah. It's like, it's like if you were to drive highway one. Somehow I just, I forgot that in California we have booty cheeks for public transit. So I thought, I assumed naturally that the train would go the fastest way possible. No. But if it was the fastest way possible, I wouldn't have been on that train for 14 hours. Yeah, dude. So overall good, but you would do it again or you would not do it again? Overall good experience. I would do it again.

[00:23:07] I don't know that I would do it both ways again. And if I did do it both going there and coming back, I may opt for the sleep, the sleeper car. I don't remember what it's called. Yeah. But like to have some privacy. It's funny because I, after your story, I looked up what it would be like to take the train from here to Seattle. Visit my, my uncle Jeffy and whatever. Right. And it was like 20 hours.

[00:23:37] That's crazy. But taking a sleeper car. Those things are like, they're like five feet wide by seven feet long. Like our cabin on the cruise was bigger than these things. And I'm like, I don't think I could do that. I don't think I could sit. Prisoners have more room. It just, it seems wild to me, but it's only, it was going to be like 270 bucks a person or whatever. 210 or whatever. Like that's not terrible. That's not the worst. No, but 20 hours in that little car.

[00:24:07] I can't. All here. You're not confined to it. You can. I would be though. Yeah. Because I don't want to mix. I want to mix your eight with the general pop, the gen pop. You know what I mean? I want to be in solitary. Oh yeah. You're going to. That is kind of one of the bonuses of train travel. Cause I've done the surf liner from like San Diego up to Anaheim and then also whatever the cascades between Seattle and Vancouver is. And I did it with Teddy little, you know, toddler.

[00:24:35] And the nice thing is versus a plane is even though it's longer, they can get up and walk and like there's free wifi. So you're not having to rely on what's downloaded. It's not great wifi, but it's free wifi. So you could stream stuff and like it, that's kind of the benefits of the train side is it's, it's a little bit more flexible than flying.

[00:24:57] I feel like a P is in the chat and he says, wait, so she Ubered from LA to Disneyland, but if she didn't, was it just like one more train and then a bus? It's a good question. What if you didn't, it was one more train. Yeah. So I would have, I would have had to wait at the LA train station for an hour, then get on a train for another hour and then an Uber to my hotel, which is very close. It was probably, probably been like a 10 minute Uber. Okay. Hmm. All right.

[00:25:25] So it's, it's, it's, it's more, you're just saving the extra time also. Cause you had to Uber either way. I was just over it. Like I just wanted to, and I, I mean, I think it was also like the excitement of getting there. Like I wanted to be there. I wanted to be in my hotel, in my bed, ready to go, ready to start the next day, like ready to go to Disneyland. Yeah. Um, I will say that the getting an Uber from LA to Anaheim was the craziest experience I've ever had.

[00:25:52] Uh, I, I use Lyft typically and, uh, I ordered one and somebody accepted and then he called me and he was like, um, can you pay me cash? And I was like, that's illegal. I was like, my good sir. That is unsafe. I've already paid you through the app. No. And then he was like, oh, okay. And I was like, case. Yeah. And then he, and then he canceled my ride and I was like, oh, a hell no.

[00:26:21] So then I reported him. Exactly. Absolutely. Cause I was like, that's not like, I'm a woman traveling alone with my daughter. Like that. I want, I want them to track me. Like, yeah. No. Oh yeah. Know where I am. Yeah. I mean, I was driving for Lyft several years ago for a little bit. Um, and, uh, you know, definitely lost money, but, um, Oh, I did too. A hundred percent.

[00:26:45] They, they tell you that they're like, do not ask people if, if it's actually the opposite to like protect the driver too. If, uh, if a, if a passenger says, Hey, can I cancel this ride? But you take me and I'll give you cash. You cannot, you cannot do it for safety reasons to like legally. You can't do it. So it's very funny to hear the driver kind of flip it around. But I mean, in this economy, what do you, what else are you going to do? You know what I mean? I mean, he shot his shot. Yeah.

[00:27:14] It must've been, it must've been, it must've been, I can't be the first person he's tried that on. So. Oh no. It must've been successful and passed. Of course. I wonder if it was because of the length of the trip. If he's like, they're going to take so much out of my, my costs. Like I, I mean, true because it was, it was an expensive Uber or Lyft or whatever. So I have an email because when you came on or when I mentioned it or whatever, after you were done with your trip, um, I had a listener reach out about her experience on the train

[00:27:42] and I wanted to, um, to read a little bit of that to see how you vibe with it. Um, she's like, we lived in Belmont, which is about 30 or so minutes from San Jose. Uh, they planned a big family trip to Disneyland for about 12 of us. For most of us living in the Bay area, my mom wanted to do something super fun and got us a limo to go from our house to the train station. Wow. Yeah. And she's like, I love it.

[00:28:11] She goes, uh, when the limo got there was still dirty from the last customer. It was kind of gross. So, you know, they, I guess they arrived at the train station, just not necessarily super stoked already, which is a bummer because you have that excitement of taking the limo and then it's suddenly like, Oh, I'm in a portable toilet or something like that. This is weird. Not good. Uh, we made it to the train station with time to spare the train. We leave in the morning and get to LA in the evening.

[00:28:39] And then we'd take the commuter train to Anaheim, which it sounds like is what you were going to have to do. Exactly. The same thing. Yeah. Um, I love Disney was in my early twenties at this point. I'm sure the whole reason for the trip was because I planned it. I normally do four or five day trips. So I'm sure this trip was no different. So lots of luggage. So, um, the train has announced that it'll be late, maybe an hour. No worries. We'll play and have fun. Then another announcement. That'll be even later.

[00:29:05] I think the train was scheduled for an eight or nine PM depart, nine AM departure with arrival to LA at seven or eight. Now we were looking at a 10 or 11 departure. Now we were looking at a 10 or 11 departure, getting it at nine or 10. Imagine being in the train station in San Jose, California for several hours. Honestly, just imagine being in San Jose for several hours. Imagine buying a house recently in San Jose and then DJing on Twitch every, every Tuesday

[00:29:33] and Thursday nights at 7 PM. I'll leave pee alone. Um, so anyway, she's like, you know, we live 30 minutes away, but we're stuck at the train station for hours with all our stuff. Like that is an important thing to remember. You could have gone home if it was going to, if you knew it was going to be late, you know what I mean? But you're just, that would, Oh, that would be gross, dude. That would be so gross. And you know, the train station isn't like SFO. I think they text you through the app. Oh, well maybe.

[00:30:03] I was running late, but I mean. So she said the train didn't come until after 3 PM. Oh dear. That's a wait. And they had 12 people in their party. So they're getting on the train and then they sit around even more dude. And so it ended up being an overnight trip. They get to Anaheim, the hotel bus picks them up.

[00:30:28] And, um, yeah, that's basically, it never took the train to Disneyland again, but I still enjoy trains, blah, blah, blah. Wow. So it sounds like the train is just, I don't know how many people have taken the train. Ryan just said he did. Uh, but basically that's two horror stories against one. So I don't know like what to tell you. I mean, I think it's also a length thing.

[00:30:53] I was concerned about the train being late, honestly, like, cause I had heard like terrible stories about it. We got lucky, but I would have been livid. I don't even know if I, I mean, I don't think I would have waited around until 3 PM. It sounds like, Oh, I don't know what you could have done. What would you do? I would have gone and rented a car and driven and then just raised hell. I mean, you would have been there by that point. Like, yeah, it, it feels, it does feel like the trains are less regulated than airplanes

[00:31:20] as far as like timeliness, you know, and I'm not saying airplanes are never late, but not like that. That's wild that, you know, that's a wild, uh, you know, uh, example of our crumbling infrastructure. And, you know, if he's in the chat and he likes to brag about how he goes to, to, you know, Japan all the time. And he's like the conductor would probably be put in jail at that point. But it is true. Like Europe has such an amazing train kind of infrastructure and we have a Amtrak that might get there on time.

[00:31:50] It's, it's bizarre. And then when you, California, when you try to do something, it costs $50 billion and it's not even done yet. And it's been going for 10 years. So I don't understand why, why we can't figure it out. But, um, that sounds like a fun story, Bev. I'm glad that you survived and you made it, but you, but you would do it again. And I got the impression at the time that you wouldn't cause it was not fun and miserable. Were you just talking or?

[00:32:18] No, I think at the time I felt that way, but then, you know, when you're not in the moment and you think about everything as a whole. Yeah. Yeah. This is why people have multiple kids because they forget how miserable it is for the first part. And they're like, you know what? Now that she's five. Let's do that again. Yeah. That'd be, don't you ever, don't you miss that? And then, you know, 11 months later, you're like, what the hell am I doing here?

[00:32:45] It's not too late to just try to move to Puerto Rico on my own. I can sell the stereo and get a flight and no one will ever find me. Do me a favor, everybody. Let's take a quick break. No, I'm not going to do my draft. I'm going to get more coffee. The draft's over. I'm going to get more coffee, but I want to come back because Bev, you were talking a little bit about planning another trip to Disneyland, but then you made an audible on that. So I want to talk briefly about that and then, um, and then we'll let you go.

[00:33:15] I know you and you and Ryan both have a hard out. So, um, you know, I can't imagine having anything to do. Basically all I do when I'm done here is I just swivel my chair around and stare into the corner until the next show. And then welcome. Anyway, hang on everybody. It's ears up. We'll be right back. Back to ears up where the opinions never stop ever.

[00:33:45] All right. Thanks for hanging around everybody. All right, Bev. So, uh, last we left you, you were planning a new trip to Disneyland cause you can't get enough of the place. It's just the best place to be. What happened? I'm just a glutton for punishment. Yeah. You know, we've been, I think, gosh, since I was a regular on the show, we've been saying for years that Disney was going to price us out.

[00:34:11] And I think I said to you that I think that that's finally happened, but not in the way I thought it was going to happen. Yeah. Where, whereas now I can, we can actually afford to go to Disneyland, but I don't see the value in what they're charging. If that makes sense. It does make sense. Yeah, absolutely. So I was missing it as one does when you're an addict. Yeah.

[00:34:35] Um, and so I was just like for funsies, I was like, okay, well let's just pick a random like long weekend and price it out. We'll see what it would cost. And I made a spreadsheet. Of course. There you go. Naturally. And it was actually on, on these particular dates, it was cheaper to fly. Okay. Um, sorry. My, my brain just turned out. I was like, now that training is part of the equation. Yeah.

[00:35:05] Cheaper to fly. Um, stay at a, at a hotel, obviously not, not a, not an on property hotel, but just a decent hotel. Right. And two, three day park hoppers. So I put in everything, the two, three day park hoppers for just me and Abby, because Sam's like, that's stupid. I don't want to go. That's too expensive. Just me and Abby was over a thousand dollars. Just our park tickets.

[00:35:35] And I was just like, geez, three day park hoppers over a thousand dollars, over a thousand dollars. So, and when I, when we went in May, I had bought that California resident special where it was two, three day park hoppers for $250 a piece. Yeah. Yeah. And now I think that now that I've had that deal, I will never go there if I cannot get that deal. Wow. What time of year?

[00:36:01] Because they're, they do have that sliding scale and I'm sure Eric and Ryan can, can help me out with that. But like when I was looking, I think I was looking in March. Oh, okay. So that should be relatively low. I looked kind of all around. Like I, I started in March, but I was like, cause I, I mean, you can look at the cat, you can look at the calendar and see like, oh, it's 160 on this day. It's 120 on this day. Let's let's shift and adjust. And it didn't really make much of a difference. It was still over a thousand dollars. Wow. It was. Yeah.

[00:36:30] That flexible pricing works. Like those days will be dead. The expensive days, those will be dead in the park now because nobody goes on those days anymore. Um, March is a little bit pricey cause it's spring break season. Yeah. Yeah. And that's sort of what I figured. So I looked around, but yes, I mean, yesterday was Saturday and Abby has the, the Disneyland app on her phone and she was like, mom, nobody's there. And like the, the longest, the cars ride was 55 minutes.

[00:36:59] That was the longest wait in the whole park. Man, it's, it's funny. Like there's some rides that are at the Disneyland resort that are, um, they're just indicated. It's almost like, uh, like recession indicators for like, you know, goods and services in the normal world. Uh, cars ride is definitely like the, that's the, that's the big one, you know, like rides of resistance or whatever. Yeah. That's I think everything's kind of fallen off on that.

[00:37:25] But if, if cars is under an hour, everyone, you got foaming at the mouth. Syndrome. It's a ghost town. Yeah. What else could we do? So out the door, I think I landed on, it was, it was going to be $1,900 for a three day trip for two people to an amusement park, which is offensive. That's wild, dude. That's wild. I was just like, what is, what could I do? Like, what's a better use of my money? Like literally anything.

[00:37:55] You sound like Sam. Yeah. Literally. Come on. We can do it. So to, and again, I think I looked in March, but I wasn't like married to any particular date, but for our entire family, all three of us to fly to Florida, take a four day cruise to the Bahamas and then spend one day in Epcot was $2,400.

[00:38:25] Well, yeah. There you go. Man. I was actually like low key pissed. I was like, are you kidding me? I mean, it is offensive to be honest. It is slightly offensive. The hard part is, you know, you use, and I wanted to talk about this with you briefly because it is. I don't know. It's good and bad, right? It's good to know that there are other options out there that. Oh, I'm so sorry. It was also in a balcony room.

[00:38:54] We were not in an interior room. It was a balcony. You weren't in steerage. You actually had a normal human water. We could see water. We could see out a window. Yeah. It's important to know that there are other things out there that can give you the same kind of, I don't know, memories or the same kind of like, oh, I miss that thing as going to the parks can, because that's a lot of the reason why everybody comes back to the parks.

[00:39:20] It's good entertainment, but you have memories of your kids walking or whatever, right? That's exactly what it is, though, because every time I go there, I'm like, why do I like this place? I don't like people. I don't like being hot. I don't like it when my feet hurt. No. See, I love when my feet hurt, so there's that. And throwing in the day at Epcot, I think, gives me the Disney fix that I was looking for. Yeah, absolutely. Plus alcohol. Well, right.

[00:39:44] Well, I think putting in an Epcot day or one Disney World day, I think, can maybe even prime the pump to be like, oh, I miss it. Because what I want to do is when I go back to the parks, I want to leave. And then miss it. I don't want to leave satisfied. Because if I leave satisfied, it's just going to take that much longer for me to want to go back. Because I want to go. I want to get my money's worth.

[00:40:09] And I feel like Disney parks do a great job at making you miss them, but also hitting that serotonin of like, ah, I finally have reached the thing that I've been wanting. Mm-hmm. I haven't paid for more than one day at Disneyland in probably a decade. Oh, wow. Really? Yeah. I just do one-day trips. Like one day. You're just kind of coming and going. Yeah.

[00:40:36] Just kind of pop in, you know, go see what's up, refill that juice a little bit. Yeah. Maybe go screw around in LA, do LA things, and then go home. Interesting. Yeah, that's been my strategy for a long time. Now, if I have free passes through other means, sometimes I, you know, will do a little extra time. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. It is a strategy.

[00:41:02] And I think, you know, before when we were all kind of going away more often, it was, I need to get my money's worth. And since the passports have kind of gone away and the magic keys are just, even if we wanted to buy one, they're just out all the time. Yeah. My thought has changed on that. And it sounds like yours has too, Bev, where it's just little trips, short trips farther apart is probably better than, you know, trying to drop $1,900 for two people to go to park

[00:41:32] for three days. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Like, I will, I'm not saying I'll never go back to Disneyland. I will. Yeah, of course. I will do my darndest to wait for some, whether it's like that Costco deal, but I'm going to wait for some kind of special. Like, I don't foresee myself ever paying full price again if it can be avoided. Like, if a family, if it's a family trip and somebody's going for a birthday and I have to go, then that's one thing.

[00:42:00] But like my own personal choice would be to never do that again. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And when we, when we're going now, I think we're at the point where, uh, and this is only because of Taryn, um, is, you know, staying on the, like saving up and taking that time to stay on the resort. Well, exactly. Get the most out of it that way. So now that I've stayed on property, I only want to stay on property. I don't want to stay in the peasant hotels. No, no. The DVC Villa is like just the way to go, man.

[00:42:30] But it's funny because the, the, both times we've done it, the monorail station has been closed in downtown Disney. So it's like, this is one of the reasons why we're here. Now we have to walk all the way down with a common folk. Come on now. Yeah. So I stayed at the Pixar the last time and I got the upgraded view, like the park view. Yeah. Don't pay for that. Dude, what are you going to do? Stare out the window? No.

[00:42:56] Honestly, I mean, I have had it before and I didn't even pay for it that time. They just gave it to me, but it was on a high floor and it was super cool. Like you could see directly into a DCA. This time I was like almost parallel with it. So it was just like looking at like the side of the wall. Like it was, I was, and it was like a hundred dollars more a night. I was like, okay. I would have literally opened that door and then just heel turned back down to the front desk.

[00:43:26] No, no, no, no, no, no. No, I'm not paying for this view, dude. Sorry. I should have done that, but I'm not. Look, as a white woman in her forties, it's every day I try to not be called a Karen. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, you got the haircut, you know, down. So that's good. What? If you had the hair, the Karen haircut, that would be different, but you know, you don't have the full suit yet. So not yet. Not yet. I don't have the chunky highlights.

[00:43:56] So are you, are you, um, are you doing the cruise thing then? Are you going to do that? Yeah. That is going to be our, uh, our 2027 family vacation. Jeez, dude. Well, be sure to hook up with Jeremy when you're out there. I will try. He's hard to pin down. He really is. He's flying all over the place, buying towels and hangers. Whatever. Uh, all right, Bev. Well, that was it, man. I just wanted to get, uh, I want to get your experience. Actually. No, that's not it. One more thing. Okay.

[00:44:23] Um, it had been a while, I think since you went and it's been a while and people have been, it's been a while since you've been on the show and people have been asking for, uh, what your, and Terrence's thoughts are, but Terrence isn't here clearly. Um, on the parks. I can speak for Terrence. Okay. Okay. You're his, uh, his proxy. Um, what are you guys thinking about the parks? Like, give me, give me just a quick overview. Like, what are your thoughts? What do you, how you feel when you go? Like, is it still awesome?

[00:44:51] I mean, I think we already know the answer, but, um, people are asking. So I'm curious, curious how you feel about Disneyland now in your, in your late 40s. First of all, rude. Um, I don't know that I have a, I mean, I obviously still enjoy it.

[00:45:14] Um, there have been a couple of situations where things have been a little weird. Like, it's, uh, I will say it's a little less magical. Not complete. Like, there's still magic there, but I, I, there's like, I was there and there was construction workers working on something in, um, fantasy land. Like when the park was open and I was like, well, that's weird.

[00:45:43] I don't really remember ever seeing that. Um, I have gone into the restroom a couple of times and they've just been destroyed. Just disgusting. And like, but that's only ever been in, it's consistently in Avengers campus. Hmm. Interesting. Yeah. All right. So like, there's a couple of things like that, but I mean, you also have to look at like the practices of the company and the, I don't want to call it a movement, but the, oh,

[00:46:09] at the act your wage movement, uh, where don't have crazy expectations of me. If you're not going to pay me my value. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't even, I didn't even know about this. Oh, it's literally called acting your wage. That's awesome, dude. I wish I knew that. Um, so I think that there's, I think from a high level, there's a lot of things that need to trickle down. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:46:38] But at this point, I don't really see it going back to what it was. I think you're right. I think it would be impossible for any sort of social movement or any sort of like, you know, quote unquote boycott or lessening of families going is going to move the needle one way or the other. I feel like with Disney parks specifically, you're kind of just stuck at whatever they

[00:47:02] offer you and, and, and no amount of, of, uh, either, you know, complaining or outrage or, or, you know, limiting your time there is going to change that. So you kind of have to make your peace with, with one thing or the other, either never going or, or going whenever you can. And, you know, and just kind of shrugging your shoulders. Unfortunately, ultimately that is going to be the only thing that would change. It would be if people didn't go. Yeah. But, but, but people are going to go, people are going to go.

[00:47:32] And clearly over the summer, uh, we've already seen that with like those low, those low price deals, you know, the SoCal tickets that are that bumped attendance up like that worked for the company. So all they have to do is just do that again and people are, are back in it. So it's kind of one of those things. It's, it's a nostalgia bait, I suppose, you know? Yeah. I mean, they've, they've figured out that they can sort of do anything and people are still going to go.

[00:48:02] And that's, that's not a good thing for the consumer, but it's great for them. It doesn't make me feel good about myself at all. No, no, no. So you three have been having this conversation since before I was on this show. For years. Yeah. For years. And we're all still going and see, that's, that's exactly the point. It's like, God, they just, they've, they've got us. But I will say we've, we've all been going less. Yes, that is true. For different reasons, but we've all been going a lot less and, um, trying not to spend as much money there.

[00:48:31] And, you know, I, I think that's ultimately for the, for the Disney fan, the casual Disney fan, I think that's a good thing because in this, this kind of goes alongside my rant about, uh, influencers and stuff like that, where it's like these people who go every day and ride the same ride a bunch of times or whatever, you're taking a space from people who you're, you're over inflating the numbers in the parks for literally no reason. You know, the people go, I'm going to go, I go to Disney to study. I'm going to go sit and Jolly holiday a patio and study.

[00:49:01] No, because that's one person that can't come in now. If, if, when the parks are full, because you're sitting there studying and not doing anything, just that all that kind of stuff bugs me. So I feel like limiting the amount of people that are going all the time lets other people go. But the downside is the only reason we're not going all the time is because it's expensive. So it comes with raising prices and that's where Disney, I guess, is struggling.

[00:49:28] So once you figure all that out, it kind of makes sense, but it just, cause it makes sense doesn't mean it feels good. Yeah. You know what I mean? I was going to say, aren't the pass holders who go there to work kind of like working in your favor, right? Cause they're not a paying day guest. So they're kind of like contributing to the, cause they, they don't pay to go in. They pay for their Jolly holiday or whatever. Right. But the, the company loses money on them theoretically.

[00:49:54] So shouldn't you be cheering them on Jason as part of your money? No, I'm subsidizing them. Um, yeah. I mean, I, I, I just look at it like a, there's an extra body coming through the turnstile. Yeah. You know what I mean? I kid. Yeah. I know you do. Uh, all right, Bev, we'll let you go. I know you got to go get ready to do whatever it is you do, uh, anymore. Take care of a fat chihuahua. I just take care of a fat chihuahua. I do need to do my hair and get ready for church. So I'm going to say adieu. All right, brother.

[00:50:24] Good to see you. Thanks again. Tell Sam and Bev, we are tell Sam and Abby, he said hi. Tell Sam and Bev. I will. Tell Sam and Bev. Okay. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Um, real quick, you know, just kind of a brief overview, anything cool and exciting that

[00:50:54] comes up? We should probably talk about it on the next news show. Yeah. Yeah. We can get more. Yeah. Yeah. We'll get more into it, but, um, anything cool you want to just mention, uh, what's going on Marvel? So I know there's a bunch of Marvel crap that happened. Yeah. So Marvel got a lot of just like, Hey, we're still working on it kind of stuff. Um, I think 2028 is when Disneyland's, um, Marvel stuff will open. They announced and it, I mean, I have to imagine that's going to be early 2028 because they

[00:51:24] showed they have the, so the new, the big e-ticket is going to have a bunch of like practical set sets and stuff. And they were showing those are mostly built and the building is built and they were filming the, the like ride video. Cause they're having like all the main Avengers or the actual actors are going to be in it and stuff. Um, and all that like is good enough for them to show off right now.

[00:51:50] Uh, but they're not opening for another year, which is really strange. Um, so that, that was a little strange, but other than that, um, international parks are getting a bunch of Marvel stuff. Um, on the Marvel front. Yeah. It was a lot of, and I will say this was the overall tenor of. The parks panel last night at day 23 was like, we're still working on it. We told you five years and it's only been two. Yeah. Exactly. Calm down.

[00:52:20] Give us a break. Yeah. I heard it was like, oh, there's an extra, you know, a mockup drawing. Yeah. Of avatar. Like, oh, people were all excited. This is where the monorail is going to go. And someone on the subreddit was like, I knew it. I called it and like, bro, it's the frigging monorail. So it's not calm down. Just relax your mind a little bit. I will say that is one interesting thing that we can maybe speculate about at some point.

[00:52:43] But it, so they announced the big announcement for Disneyland ended up being, they finally said it that they're going to do Tomorrowland. Yeah. And I think they're starting construction. Like, it's like just happening. Right. Well, that was the weird thing. Right. So the way that Maslow, because I watched it, I watched the stream and everything.

[00:53:04] The way Maslow teed it up, he goes, as we look on to like the 75th and then turn our eyes towards the centennial of the park, we're going to start focusing on Tomorrowland. I'm paraphrasing a little bit there, but it's like, did you just announce a 25 year project? Yeah. Wow. It's quite a long time. But I do think logistically and legitimately.

[00:53:27] So the monorail thing with Avatar basically says that Avatar is going to be where the bus drop off is right now. If everything holds steady. And so my thought is, it's basically going to be one massive construction project from Tomorrowland all the way through the, what's right now, the Eastern Gateway. All the way down to Hollywood land in DCA.

[00:53:56] And that's just going to be one big project where they're going to put the footbridge in. They're going to do Avatar. They're going to redo Tomorrowland. And it's just that whole Eastern side is just going to be under construction for the next couple of years. So do you think that that would mean that they would have like now a new entrance? Because like that's going to connect both parks. Oh, I didn't think about that. That like you could go from park to park like right there. Maybe. I don't know. It sounded like that's what you were saying. Like.

[00:54:25] No, I think the parks will butt up to each other. Like my theory is that like. Butt. Avatar's like mountain will be some wall of Tomorrowland, right? Oh, okay. I see. But I don't know if they'll have you go under the railroad like through the berm or something. I mean, it'd be cool if you could go park to park right there. But if you had. I mean, if they had just not park hopper, but it's just a ticket to the Disney Inn Resort. And you should go around like you're in. That'd be that'd be pretty cool. That's what Paris does.

[00:54:55] Like you can pay for park hopper if you're buying day tickets. But if you're buying a hotel, it's all inclusive. You just get as many tickets as you have days plus one, basically. So you get to you get your diet, your check in day plus your checkout day. Yeah. It's all one price and it's all park hoppers. It's basically like, yeah, we can come into the parks. You're staying in an expensive hotel that literally is right over the park. Why not come downstairs? Well, it's any of them, too. It's like their cheap hotel.

[00:55:25] That's like. I mean, when I say they're cheap hotel, right, it's through their downtown Disney. But yeah, cheap in air quotes. Yeah. But yeah, so that was the big one. And then they're also they're bringing back the 50th fireworks. Remember dreams come true, which I'm pretty stoked. People seem to like those. All right. What? Just back to the Tomorrowland thing really quick.

[00:55:49] It's interesting that their tagline for it seems to be yesterday's tomorrow. Tomorrowland. And it's it's almost like they listened to us. Yesterday's tomorrow today or something like that. Yeah. Because we've always we've always said that, like, you can't do Tomorrowland anymore because for one, I think it would be disturbing. Yeah, dude. And scary. But but you can do like a retro like Tomorrowland has to be like retro.

[00:56:19] It just has to. So it's never going to be it can't be actual Tomorrowland, but it can be 1955 Tomorrowland. And I think that would be enjoyable. And it almost feels like they that's the direction they're going in with that tagline. And I approve. Yeah, I do like the the 1950s version of what today would be because that's super exciting. You know, like the the the house of the future and all that kind of stuff, the bathroom of

[00:56:48] tomorrow or whatever that would be that would be very fun and have it in sort of a a kitschy way, but grounded in some kind of reality or, you know, whatever you could do a whole man in space thing, you know, display from the TV show and have a like you could just do all this stuff, you know, and like talk to people like it's still 1955 and we're getting ready in the year 2000. We will be, you know, living in space with our autonomous robots, giving you lobotomies

[00:57:17] whenever you need, you know, that kind of stuff. That could be a lot of fun because it doesn't need to be serious. You know, I know I know Walt wanted it to be kind of serious, but he's he's dead. He also set the future in 1980. Well, yeah, yeah, I think they they said that they're bringing more open spaces and more attractions, which I'm like, where? It sounds like the the people mover tracks going to go away. Then that's what that means to me. Open spaces. Yeah. What are you doing?

[00:57:47] What are you talking about? So what do you get that? You have to remove something. What are you going to do? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The I do. I do fear for the dioramas because they're right there. They sit in the like on the railroad base right there on the railroad. Yeah. Oh, no. This would never go away. No, they just refreshed them. I don't know that they can't.

[00:58:15] Like, that's that's my thought is like, yeah, they just refreshed them. They're refreshing them right now. But like, I love them. But I kind of wonder if they're kind of like they're kind of one of those things that the company goes, yeah, the fans like them, but whatever, you know, maybe we ship them to Missouri and stick them in Marceline or something. I hope not. They're already museum pieces, right? Yeah. I don't think that would. I don't. I mean, I see what you're saying.

[00:58:43] That would be a concern of mine. But I think that's such an iconic thing that that's part of the railroad. It's one of the reasons I like riding the road. Yeah. To be honest with you, it's just seeing that like it's not a complete ride around unless I see that no matter where you get on or where you get off. Doesn't even matter. Yeah. Seeing the primeval world is is is sick. Yeah, I don't know what else you could do. And they're redoing Autopia cars. So, you know, they're not going to do anything to track.

[00:59:10] I mean, you know, but you're not going to move the monorail. So the people mover trains got to go. Maybe the Tomorrowland stage or whatever is going to go. I don't know. That's super interesting. I guess. I mean, I guess we'll find out if we live long enough. You know what I mean? Yeah. All right. Let's get out of here. Well, it's good to have everybody and Bev. Yeah, everybody and Bev. Count as everybody. She never answered for Terrence, by the way. She said she speaks for Terrence, but she never answered for him.

[00:59:39] They probably both share the same opinion and the same brain and all that good stuff. Yeah, they kind of do sometimes. Eric, I'm glad you're back, brother. I'm glad you're feeling better. I'm glad you're home. But it feels great to be home. And hopefully Brandy forgives you and forgives your brain for fighting back in this mortal sleeve that we all wear. She would have liked it better if it didn't have to. Yeah. Well, you know.

[01:00:08] You know, everybody, yourself included, I'm sure. Ryan, thank you very much for coming on once more and helping us out with Eric. And it was good to have you. And I feel like I'm giving your eulogy right now. We'll never see him again. Ryan has trained his replacement. And it's AI, typically. So there's that.

[01:00:31] No, I think next time we'll talk about, you know, the D23 recap and kind of maybe dive a little more in depth on that. And, you know, that kind of stuff. So hang on for that, everybody. I do want to talk real fast about the, I think it was the last show. I mean, it was the secret show. I don't really know. But I was talking about next year having a kind of a meetup or an event at the Walt Disney Family Museum.

[01:01:01] At this point, I don't know how many shows I've talked to about. So apologize if I haven't mentioned it or if I have. I still don't know what to do with that. So give me ideas. If you guys are out there, send me an email. Jason at earsup-podcast.com or the Contact Us page on the website if you don't want to figure out how to spell things, which I understand. Or on Discord or whatever, dude. However you want to reach out. But give me somebody. What would you want to see at an event like that? It'll be like three or four hour event, maybe.

[01:01:30] We don't have to use the whole space for that. But it'll be in the theater at the Walt Disney Family Museum in San Francisco. Let me know if you would come out for that. Like, I just, I need to know before we start booking things. Tickets would, unfortunately, would probably have to be, you know, north of $100. Starbucks. But it's just, I don't know, man. Things are expensive to rent. And that's, I think it's why the Family Museum Caroline's like, you guys ready to talk about this? Let's go. Let's talk about it.

[01:01:59] I'm like, I can't, I don't, I don't know what to do. I mean, I have ideas, you know. But if there's anything specific you guys want or, hey, that's too much that I would go if it was 75 or I would, you know. But I think like 150 is probably the highest that it would be. It just depends on how many people, you know, go. And it was a whole thing. So, I don't know. Reach out. Let me know if that's interesting to you guys at all. Well, you know, I would have, everybody from all the shows would be coming out.

[01:02:30] Unfortunately, it's all on their own dime, Ryan and Eric. So, don't get too excited. What's wrong with the jet? It's in the shop. It's in the pawn shop. Yeah. It got actually shrunk to the toy jet now. So, I don't know. The pictures I was showing you was a macro camera. It was really just a toy that I put together. Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, the tickets would literally be just to pay for the space. And that's it.

[01:02:59] Because otherwise it would be just wildly. Anyway, whatever. Hit me up. Let me know what you guys want to see at an event like that if that would be interesting to you. Okay. Thank you guys once again for all the other shows that we have on the networks. Which are all doing great things. Go to earsup.com. Go to patreon.com slash earsup. Help support us for as little as five bucks a month. That would be great. And that's it. Until next time. See you in the parks.