The Case of the Spinny Whippies: Mater's Junkyard Jamboree v Alien Swirling Saucers

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[00:00:36] Oh, it throws me off so much. Each episode we will discuss and explore each resort, ride by ride, land by land, park by park, sentient vehicle by sentient vehicle to answer this long elusive question. Which is better, Disneyland or Walt Disney World? I'm Dan and thank you for joining me on this quest to help the greater good of humanity answer that very long elusive question. Which one is better? Joining me as always with this battle with

[00:01:05] from his battle with losing a water bottle, Jimmy. And also for Hello? Now you say things? Yeah, thank you. Eric, have a clip prepared because I'm going to introduce you now from the hit podcast Bowie's Planning. Eric. Hello. Too late. Okay, this episode. This episode, we're going to be talking about the spinners that aren't Dumbo and also aren't teacups, but also too aren't the

[00:01:35] other ones. That's right. You guessed it. It's a made our made our junkyard jamboree versus Alien Swirling Saucers. Alien swirling saucers. Okay, that one. But before we get there, we have some things to talk about. I want to talk about them chronologically because first, what happened is the Bob JPEC book came out. Oh my God. Yep. That poor victim.

[00:02:06] I know. I know. Cross country in the Midwest. He's a hero. Eric is currently frozen. I don't know if that means that you can or can't hear us. He's moving his head. Yeah, we're moving. That means that this episode might be brought to us by Spectrum Cable at any moment.

[00:02:26] Yeah. I think one nice thing I can say about the book is I'm pretty sure the co-author did minimal work. Yeah. So I started it while on the trip, I think on the trip out West, and I just couldn't finish the first chapter. It's just so dull. And I'm sure it gets better.

[00:02:53] I know that Jim and Len talked about it on their show, and they said that he spilled some pretty significant beans, that there must have been some kind of non-disclosure thing that expired or whatever, because he gave stats that nobody's ever given before. Have you gotten there? No. Like the 1.1 million Disneyland annual pass holders. Right. Yeah.

[00:03:17] I got through, I think I'm in the second chapter. I think I'm further along than anyone on this podcast. I think you're wrong. Oh, really? Yes. How far along are you, Eric? I don't know. I got to look it up. It's like once a week, I strap myself to a chair, and I'm like, all right, we're going to keep going. Like Clockwork Orange? Orange? Yes. Yes. We're in chapter seven now.

[00:03:46] Oh, God. Oh, God. How many chapters are there? I don't know, but there are five hours left. Oh, God. So, Dan, what are your impressions of said book? I think that this is a man who has been failing upwards his entire life. And I think it's solidifying my opinion that they were basically like, this COVID thing, it's not going to really go well, is it? No, it isn't.

[00:04:15] Okay, so we need someone who can just kind of take the fall and then kind of just do the stuff that we've kind of always wanted to do afterwards. And then he'll be the villain. And I think he genuinely doesn't realize that that's what happens. I think he really thinks that they thought he was the best person. Oh, interesting. I think he figured it out at some point, though.

[00:04:42] Yeah, the impression I got from the little I read was that he did feel like they did it on purpose. Okay. That, again, you read more than I did, but that they put him in place on purpose, like, in order to fail. Right. I don't know. But at the same time, so much of it in the front part is about how, like, I just want to be a CEO. I don't really care what that looks like, and I don't really care.

[00:05:10] That's just an accomplishment I want to have. And then so from that point of view, it's like, okay, well, you got the thing that you wanted. Clearly, you have to realize you're underskilled for the actual job. Right. Anyway, Eric, you've read more. And where are we on that? Yeah, you're on the right track there. Early on, he goes to great pains to say how he came up from humble roots and hardworking. I would say the most humble.

[00:05:40] Family man, the family manist. And then he resents the rich people, the CEOs and executives of the world, because they don't want him around. But he still does keep going up the ranks, and he keeps finding things to do. And I don't know, I think at the time he was coming up, it was just, he's literally writing letters to companies and saying, yeah, I would like to be in marketing.

[00:06:09] And they're like, okay, come on. Let's come and market cat food for us. He did. So, you know, he keeps moving his way up. But then the part of Matt now is where he has become CEO after successfully doing all the things with creating Scraping the Vault. And so you owe him a great debt, America.

[00:06:36] And then he is the CEO, and he's going through all of these, you know, he's showing up at meetings where he has met with Bob Iger once a day for about an hour. Bob Iger, who's supposed to be training him. And then Iger's like, yeah, I haven't talked to, I haven't talked to this guy in weeks. I don't know what you're talking about. So he's simultaneously throwing him under the bus and underpreparing him and trying to act like he's, I don't know. We'll get further.

[00:07:05] That's kind of where I'm at right now in the storyline. Yeah. I enjoyed how he would talk, he would frequently talk about, he would have, how he would have these experiences that, you know, spoke to him as a, you know, rugged, hard worker or, you know, growing up in less than perfect situation.

[00:07:28] And he's really convinced himself that he's the only person that has ever faced these hardships or worked this hard. And the fact of the matter is he's just the only person constantly talks about it. Or the, the only person in the currently in the room with him that won't shut up about these things. And I'm just getting a read that this person was absolutely insufferable to work with or for.

[00:07:54] It's kind of like, Hey Bob, tell us again about how you shoveled slop when you worked for the farm. Right. So, um, I'm, uh, I'm in the middle of reading, um, Joe Rohde's book, Floating Mountains, which is outstanding. And it's like, it's not, it's a leadership book. I don't know if by design, but it's, it's really, really good. It's not a, it's not a memoir as much as it is about how things get created.

[00:08:22] It's not like our podcast that goes in the number of gallons of paint, but rather the idea germination and teamwork and a lot of really great metaphors. It's really good. Highly recommend that listener. So I'm curious, you said it's a leadership book, but maybe not on purpose.

[00:08:42] Is that maybe, is that like, do you think that's part of the form or do you think that is you finding the leadership stuff in there that maybe he didn't intend? Maybe a little bit of both. Okay. Yeah. But it's, it's not prefaced or sold as a leadership book, more of a, and not really a memoir, but, but just, yeah, it's really great. A great storyteller. It talks about his earrings and about what is an earring.

[00:09:09] No wonder Spotify gave him that contract and he has such long episodes, right? Um, I don't know what you're talking about. The Joe Rohde experience. Oh no, that's Joe Rogan. Oh, okay. Sorry. Oh, that's a different guy. Those are different guys? With earrings. Got it. Okay. That makes a ton of difference. Um, but yeah, one of the concepts was, uh, about, you know, what is an earring?

[00:09:34] And, and, uh, he was trying to find everywhere he goes, everywhere he goes, new country. He has to buy an earring on the first trip and he's in Kathmandu or somewhere. I forget. It's some bizarre. And he's trying to find an earring and he's there. They're all basically the same manufactured in China. He's like, I want a thing from here. And so everybody was getting frustrated. The tour bus is about to leave and he found like a little junk pile and there was a ring, you know, like you'd put on your finger.

[00:10:04] And, uh, the, um, the shop sellers, well, it will be an earring when you put it in your ear. And it was kind of the idea of like, uh, a thing is not what it is. It's like, it was a thing is like a chair is not a chair. It's a thing you sit on. It can also be a table. It can also be, so a thing is whatever you do with it, which is kind of an interesting concept. Anyway. Um, yeah.

[00:10:31] So going, going, going, going chronologically, uh, then, uh, we went to Disneyland. Yeah. With, uh, that was Jimmy and myself and Marie from spokes. And we met with David and husband, Mike, his testicles were doing wonderfully. Um, Eric, Eric wasn't there. It wasn't a part of this. Okay. He's a little shocked. Only, only from reputation, not from observation.

[00:11:01] Oh, okay. You've heard tell. We heard the word swampy a couple of times. It was hot. It was hot. Oh my God. Yeah. I've heard tell of that too. Speaking of hot, it was 105 degrees. Yeah. It cost $324 to get in. Yep. And we went on Splash Mountain. What a refreshing time. And the boat that I got in had six inches of water in it when I got in. Right. And they just launched it up. They were like, oh, this is flooded.

[00:11:28] And they launched us and it dragged because there was a lot of extra water. And then every time it would go uphill, there's no drain in this boat. So every time it would go uphill, I'm in the back seat as a single writer tends to be. Hold your breath. All the water went to the back of the boat. So I'm sitting in water. So I would have to like push my legs up. And I was like, I was, my butt was off the seat 80% of the ride. And then when it goes, when it went down or flat, then the water would just kind of, but then more water came in.

[00:11:58] It was insane. It was like literally up to my ankles beyond. It's got to be even more so at the secret mystery soak spot. Oh, exactly. Indoors. Yeah. So here you go. Here's a note for the Tiana's episode. We've never discussed log drains before. Oh. So I, well, I just, I just figured that they get like a turkey baster at the end of the night. Squeeze it all out. I hadn't really considered the fact. They just pick it up and dump it over. Yeah.

[00:12:28] Cause like the, the boats in like the safari or the, um, the water rides, like the, you know, the spinny ones, like Cali river, et cetera, they've got drains in the floor, but I guess they probably can't have on the logs because then water would fill in. I guess, I don't know. It's weird. Hmm. There's gotta be some kind of way. I feel like Elon Musk could come up with something. Probably. He's a genius. Oh, he, yeah. Tony Stark in the flesh. The smartest man in the universe.

[00:12:55] Speaking of Tony Stark, I've watched, this is out of chronological order, but I just watched vision quests first couple episodes. Excellent. It was listener. You're going to have to download this, this episode, get download audacity, edit it, put that piece in front of the whole thing. Okay. Go ahead. Continue. Anyway. Um, all right. So Dan, so back to Disneyland flooded boats. Go ahead. Yeah. Uh, you know, vision quest. I just watched both of them.

[00:13:19] Um, I really hope Ultron isn't the secret villain because that would suck. It would be too obvious. It'd be too obvious. And I don't think he's lying. I think he's being overly AI honest. Yeah. I, I, I mean, I could watch James Spader do anything. Right. Enjoy it. So, um, reminds me of a moment when I turned to my friend Derek a couple of years ago and I said, am I the Denny Crane here or are you the Denny Crane?

[00:13:46] Anyway, um, uh, Boston legal. That's the joke. Um, uh, Frazier. Yes. Yes. All the same. Uh, and Jimmy, you experienced grave loss involving a water bottle. I was, I, I bring a water bottle to work off times. They have a nice little water filter ice thing. And I only have like one or two. They don't have a bathroom in the office. So that's why. That's correct. I don't have a, uh, I have like one or two water bottles.

[00:14:16] One condensates all over my desk and the other one belongs to my child. So I wanted my very own like stainless steel insulated one. Uh, that what better place when I'm, it's going to be 105 degrees and I am going to spend $7 a bottle of water. And so I decided to get a reusable water bottle. First thing I did, went and made the purchase at Elias and Co at California Adventure. And we found them.

[00:14:45] Obscure fact. Named after his father. That's right. Elias. Anyway, so he, uh, so I, I bought the thing. Save it for the episode, Dan. Uh, we had our friend, uh, Brianna was here as well. And Brianna got me the discount for the bottle and I'm like, great insulated water bottle. I'm ready. And they like, okay, after discount is $38 for the, for the, for the, uh, sake of this episode and Brianna's past membership, she paid for it.

[00:15:15] The annual pass. Yeah. Or the water bottle. She paid for it because she got the discount. That's right. That's for the record. Anyway, I said out loud to the lady, $38. I couldn't help myself. She was not entertained, but anyhow. So we got the bottle. Uh, had it all day. Refilled it over and over again. And at the very end. I feel like you became an attached to that water bottle. I love that water bottle. Yeah. Yes. You did. Mental lot. Yeah. And I needed a refill.

[00:15:44] So I just went to, um, splash mountain or Tiana's Bayou adventure and just dropped it down on the boat. Anyway. So, uh, I did the thing. Oh yeah. It's the very last ride. We are kind of done for the day. It's, you know, whatever. We had a wonderful day. One of the, the top, top visits to Disneyland. And we went on Goofy's Sky School. It was our final ride. And I got off Goofy's Sky School and I reached to my back to get into my water bottle and

[00:16:12] it was gone because there is a giant gaping hole in my suit and my backpack. Oh, so you bought a new backpack. Well, not yet. So I went back to the ride. We'd, we'd been off the ride, what? 90 seconds or something. We're just walking down the street and turn around. Uh, could you check? This is Dan was like, I know exactly what color the vehicle was. This is the side of the thing we were on. And we waited there probably 15 minutes. And they said, we checked every ride vehicle. It's not here.

[00:16:39] And I was like, you know, I know this is not your fault, but I just spent $40 on this thing. Can you help me out? Because it didn't fall to the ground. That would have, that would probably would have shut the ride down. And there's no way for it to have fallen out of the ride vehicle. So it's got to be in there somewhere. And you just didn't look. Anyway, there's a little lady over there in our blue tarp or blue tent or whatever. Just go see if she can help. So I went over there, same little story. And she's like, well, maybe somebody picked it up and took it. Why don't I just go ahead?

[00:17:09] Maybe some disgusting person came along and said, yum. So she filled out a little piece of paper and said, bring this to the store you bought it. And they'll get you a new one. And so I did. And they did. I just gave them the thing. Here's the bottle. Here's the paper. And they said, have a nice day. And it was so magical. So the things that you don't know still happen. But it was pretty cool. I guess I kind of, I didn't expect it. I didn't feel like I deserved it.

[00:17:36] But I was like, thinking through, I was like, I just spent probably $700 here today. Right. Between food and drink and tickets. And I'm a loyal fan and a DVC holder. Like I was kind of in my head coming up with the arguments for why they should give me the water bottle. But you've got the requisite podcast of anyone who really likes Disney. Yeah. But I wanted them to give me the bottle. Okay. I think what ended up happening.

[00:18:02] And listener, you might want to, there might be someone in your life that you might want to play this part for. You didn't approach them with a, I'm this, I'm that, I deserve, I deserve, I did this and that. But it was just a very reasonable like, okay, look, I know that it's really not that big of a deal. Right. But you do realize that that's not a reasonable price for a water bottle. Right.

[00:18:32] Yeah. I was kind of channeling my inner wife because she, I just had her voice in my head. You didn't ask to see if you could get another one. Right. Right. And it was, but, but at no point was like, I can't believe I spent blah, blah, blah. I was just like, look, I know this is ridiculous, but you would also exist in the world. Is there any possibility here? And if not, I understand things get lost all the time. Exactly. It's not your fault. Right.

[00:19:02] So listener, hopefully, hopefully the person that you played this for is looking at you and nodding and realizing all the ills that they have caused in customer service land. And if you, if you guys want to hug it out, that's fine. We're going to start the show shortly. Yeah. Hopefully the person that you're playing it for requested, hey, after that amazing last episode, I can't wait to hear what they have next.

[00:19:27] And they were begging for more, more tiki talk. In fact, you know, listener and, and our new, our new listener friend, go ahead and pause this one. It'll be here. Go back, listen to that episode with your friend. In fact, every episode of somebody's first. Yeah. You know what? Go in, listen to the Dollywood reporter episode and don't explain anything to them ahead of time. Mm hmm. Okay. That's right. Anyway.

[00:19:54] So that same anecdote is going to be told on the spokes podcast to be curious to see what her version of the story is. Yeah. I, I told her to embellish a little bit. So let's see what happens. Yeah. All right, Dan. Okay. Um, we are about to, uh, do my story in chronologic order. What's your, okay. Your story. Eric wasn't at any of these things. I don't really have one. I stayed home. What were you doing the weekend that we were, what happened? Um, sitting at home wishing I was in Disneyland.

[00:20:23] I don't know. Even if it was 105 degrees. Uh, no, it was, it was hot, but not that hot. And I live on a mountain, so it probably wasn't that bad. I think I was doing carpet squares that weekend again. Hmm. Yeah. Is that a game show? No, no, it's, it's, it's pulling up chunks of carpet and, uh, putting new ones down because our puppy is no longer a puppy and doesn't do puppy things inside the house. Nice. Yay.

[00:20:52] Um, okay. So also listener and your friend, if you would like to do puppy things inside the house while you listen to this episode, no judgment, but you know, we don't need pictures this time. Uh, anyway, uh, we, uh, oh, I also turned 50 and I joined AARP, which I'm, I feel very good about. Hooray. Yay. How was that free coffee at McDonald's today? I forgot to do that.

[00:21:18] Anyway, speaking of forgetting to do things, we've forgotten to start this episode. Hey, hard out in 12 minutes. Hard, not, not 12 minutes. Uh, we are going to be talking about something you've been waiting for us to talk about the entire, this whole, whole podcast. I know. Except you, the listener who's, this is the first episode. Yeah. I mean, you're new to this, but so actually, unless you tuned into this because of the title. Well, this is good. And this is good for your friend because they haven't been sitting around and waiting for

[00:21:48] this like you have. So I'm sure when you first heard about this podcast, you were like, Oh, Disneyland versus Walt Disney world. I can't wait. I'm sure within the first few episodes, they will get to Mater's Junkyard Jamboree versus Aliens, Swirly, Swirling Saucers. Swirling Saucers. Um, and the wait is over. Here we are. Um, I'm the judge. Tap, tap. Uh, and.

[00:22:18] Gavel has been stricken. Gavel, gavel. And I forget. So I, before we get into this, I just want to share a thought. Do you remember how she'll go? I want to, I want to share a thought that I shared in our show chat, which was that both Eric and Disney world really legitimately need a win or cause I, I don't want the listener to think that either of them are like the Washington generals of our podcast, which they aren't.

[00:22:46] That's not, that's not the bit, but, uh, so Eric, which one have you decided? Well, yeah. Cause my response to Dan was, I think you kind of put me in a box here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I chose Disneyland and Mater's Junkyard Jamboree. So now I'm, now I'm in the box. Judge fairly and impartially. That's right. Impartial. Okay.

[00:23:11] And, uh, that means Jimmy, you are doing the alien saucers. Is it Disney Hollywood studios or Disney's Hollywood studios? You should know this. Is it Disney's California adventure or Disney California adventure? It's more fun. Just call it Disney MGM because someone will always. Disney MGM. There you go. And which one came first? I know nothing. Junkyard, right? Junkyard. Yeah. 2012 is Toy Story Land is more recent than that. Right. Right. Right.

[00:23:39] And even spiritually, it was Tuck's tuck and tuck and tuck, tuck, tuck and tuck your balls. Tuck and tuck. Right. It was Tuck's. Well, Tuck's Mater Jamboree or something like that. Well, no, it wasn't, but okay. Oh, okay. Then nevermind. Sounds. Let the record show that there was a gas leak in the court. So Eric's going to start.

[00:24:06] And if Eric says something that I enjoy, I will hear the following. I got incredibly excited. And what the hell is that? That is Bob Iger talking about how incredibly excited he was to introduce Cars Land. Nice. Okay. And Jimmy, I just realized the ear sound has nothing to do with the alien. That's awesome. Or it doesn't. Okay. Or it doesn't.

[00:24:36] When I give points to something that you have said, we will hear this. All three different meanings to the word get or done. It's like I am Groot. That's right. Okay. Eric, you started. You know what you did. Let's do it. Let's get the proverbial her done. Well, let's open that statement then. Jimmy, do you have an open statement? I sure do. An open statement as well? Okay. It's very combative. Okay.

[00:25:05] Before the stenographer wants to know if either of you will be utilizing the Golden Dreams option for your closing statements. No, mine would be unnecessary, Your Honor. Okay. Oh, well. It's always unnecessary. And that's what makes it fun. Exactly. True. Mine's not long enough. Okay. Mine.

[00:25:49] How long is it? 226? 226. But there's a swell towards the last third or quarter that you really want to start hitting. Okay. Let me give you a masterclass on how to deal with this thing. It starts. You want it to start. It starts quiet, right? And you want to kind of embrace that. And that's when you're like more ponderous place. And then it has a place where it goes.

[00:26:15] And that's when you want to, at least in your vocal inflection, do like a, but I realized this. And then there's another little, another quiet point where the choir comes in. And that's where you want to really introduce some serious pathos. And then the crescendo. And then the crescendo. You got to hit that. And it doesn't even matter if it makes sense that you're hitting it. You just hit it.

[00:26:43] There's no doubt in my mind that you have told Claude exactly what to do and how long. No, no. That's the thing. I set up all the parameters. I say all the motions and everything and everything that I want it to do. And it spits it out. And then I do the more insane thing, which is I sit and I have it playing and I practice. That's awesome. It's not insane. That's showmanship.

[00:27:11] I highlight the segment where it's like, okay, it needs to start playing here. Wow. Yeah. Amazing. All right, Eric, what's your opening statement? All right. Here. Let's, let's get down to business. We're only half an hour in. Okay. Two attractions. Two rides, really. These two distractions from our humdrum lives do basically the same thing. They spin. They whip. And we laugh.

[00:27:41] It's fun, right? Spinny rides have been around for quite some time. But themed spinny rides? Well, that's Disney. If it pleased the court, I aim to prove that Mater's Junkyard Jamboree is the supreme spinny, whippy ride or whatever we end up calling this one. It's more of an off the shelf Zamperla crazy daisy, but it's also so much more. It has theming up the wazoo and also down the street.

[00:28:06] It has attention to detail and it has an important role in welcoming you to Cars Land. Objection, your honor. You can't object during this part. Wazoo. Well, he's talking about Tomater. Seeing as how I almost made a joke that was two rides, one cup, I'm going to let it slide. Good thing you didn't get a chance to say it. I know, right? Mater's Junkyard Jamboree. There we go. Sorry. Sorry, Eric.

[00:28:35] State something, Jimmy. I will. Ladies, gentlemen, and galactic citizens of the jury and Dan, we are here today to dismantle a myth. For years, the theme park community has coddled a specific piece of Radiator Springs bias, claiming that Mater's Junkyard Jamboree is the superior whip ride. Today, we expose that falsehood.

[00:29:01] We will prove that Alien Swirling Saucers at Disney's Hollywood Studios is mathematically, visually, and atmospherically superior attraction. It is a masterpiece. I'm sorry, did you say spherically superior? Atmospherically superior, Spectrum Cable Boy. It is a better sphere. It is a masterpiece of vibrant sci-fi energy, an anchoring triumph for Toy Story Land, and a master class in kinetic joy. And, perhaps most importantly,

[00:29:32] for the sanity of your ear canals, Larry the Cable Guy is absolutely 100% nowhere to be found in Alien Swirling Saucers. I rest my opening case. Tempted. Tempted. I'm tempted to give it a point. Oh, man. The reason I chose the getter done is just to kind of give it some balance, because I didn't want to win too much. Okay. I think, actually, we need to establish up front. Okay.

[00:30:00] How fair is it to... What are we going to do with the label, label the carry guy for the element of this? Because I don't think any... I think maybe I'm just going to pull a number out of myself here. 30% of the audience really loves Larry the Cable Guy. I'm not basing that on any other related numbers.

[00:30:29] Oh, fair enough. I have nothing against him. I'm just catering to the audience. Right. You're catering to Dan. Right. That's the audience. Well... Wait, we have more listeners than Dan, don't we? Don't we? I think so. I listen on multiple devices. Ah, that's what it is. Speaking of catering to Dan, Larry the Cable Guy is also known as Daniel Lawrence Whitney. Oh. And it's a character that he came up with, Larry the Cable Guy.

[00:30:58] Daniel is the character he came up with? No, Larry the Cable Guy. Ah, got it. Although I wonder if... I think that Venn diagram has become just a circle. Okay. Eric, tell me more that you would like to tell me about this. Wretched Ride. Wow. It's enjoyable. It is an enjoyable ride. I have been on it. I enjoy it.

[00:31:23] I really, as an over 300-pound person, I enjoy crushing the person next to me with centrifugal force. Um, I've not been on the alien pizza swirl planet, but I feel like I have, is all I'm going to say. Yeah, that's fair. Okay. Okay. You get the concept, and you get... Yes. ...exactly what the ride is supposed to be. Right. Okay. Well then, hey, let's start with history. We'll get to the ride itself later.

[00:31:51] That's literally another portion of the show. Sure. Um, history. So, Jimmy has offered to discuss the type of ride that this is, and that's nice of him. So, I'll let him do it, because I think he's got a little more on this than I do. But we'll start out with a little history of the area. So, before this was Cars Land, this area of California Adventure was Bountiful Valley Farm.

[00:32:21] And before that, it was a parking lot. Hmm. Yeah. But between those, it was Bugs Land. Ah, but this port, Cars Land, was mostly Bountiful Valley Farm, where Bugs Land was next to it. That became Avengers Campus. Yeah, that's right. Okay. Yeah, the bathroom's the same. Right, right. So, but they do have an homage to Bountiful Valley Farms in Pim's test kitchen,

[00:32:49] in that the ketchup mustard bottles are Bountiful Valley Farms. How many times have you told that precise fact? A lot. Okay. Did you know I got married at Disney World? Did you know they have people's names on the windows above the street? That's right. Anyway. Uh, well, yes. So, yes.

[00:33:14] Certain portions of Disney California Adventure were Disneyland's former surface parking. What section of the parking lot was it? I don't know which. That is a good question. I can tell you that when DCA opened, this portion of the park was the Timon parking lot. Sorry, Eric, what? Part of this area was the Timon parking lot when DCA first opened. Oh, right. Uh, that, that changed.

[00:33:44] So, uh, in 2001, yes, that's when DCA opens up. Um, Caterpillar sponsored an exhibit that is approximately where this ride is now. Caterpillar, the, the tractor and other large equipment company. It allowed you to climb around actual farm machinery, get into a tractor. There were demonstrations of irrigation and agricultural displays in other areas of Bountiful Valley Farm.

[00:34:13] 2002, a Bugs Land opened. And that introduced Flick's Fun Fair. Uh, that, uh, the, the farm next to it continued to operate. So now we have two sections of the park that kids can run around and do stuff in. Pretty nice. 2006, the Caterpillar sponsorship ended. The tractors of Caterpillar disappeared from the displays. But don't worry, there will be tractors back soon.

[00:34:43] October 17th, 2007, uh, the transformation of DCA was announced. This was a five-year, approximately $1.1 billion expansion. To include Cars Land, originally developed from Car Land. Another, another portion of the park that was intended to be put in, kind of got shelved, moved around, shuffled, and then brought back as Cars Land.

[00:35:13] I think we'll talk about Car Land at some point in the future when we do, I don't know, I would assume Cars Land versus Toy Story Land. That doesn't make sense, yeah. Yeah. I was just thinking about that during this, but we'll, we'll keep the, the Land as a whole. Yeah, Car Land is an interesting, it's a fascinating story about California car culture and Route 66 of it all. And they effectively got what they wanted to do, but they were able to put it in the IP. Yeah. And you know who was responsible for that? Kevin Rafferty and John Lasseter.

[00:35:43] Ooh. Hug it out. Folks, I'm, so I'm looking at a map. I couldn't get the correct answer from other means, but it looks like Mater's Junkyard Jamboree is where the mini parking section used to be. Oh. But I mean the character, maybe not a very small part. Not a small part. Oh, in the original. Nice. You know. The tiny part. Only small cars can park here. It's just one car. It's one car. It's a clown car, though. Yes.

[00:36:14] So. Hmm? Oh, sorry. I. Oh. Please continue. I was half, I was half looking that up and half listening, so I'm not entirely sure where we are. That's okay. We're now in September. No points for history. Okay. Thank you. Yes. Now in September of 2010, Bounteville Valley Farm closed. All of its infrastructure was removed to make way for Cars Land and Mater's Junkyard Jamboree.

[00:36:41] Construction's going on for a few years there, and then June 15, 2012, grand opening. Cars Land opens to the public with Radiator Springs Racers, Luigi's Flying Tires, and Mater's Junkyard Jamboree. On that particular, well, I guess the night before was the ceremony where we heard Bob Iger being very excited. Incredibly excited, in fact.

[00:37:10] There was a fun dancing and roller skating demonstration of people going around. A couple of the roller skaters totally bit it on stage. It's a fun video to watch. Not because people, they got up and they continued dancing. It's just one of those poorly rehearsed grand opening things. Half of it, it's like 25 minutes long, and half of it is them introducing people who made the Cars movies and were in the Cars movies,

[00:37:40] coming on stage and taking a picture with Bob Iger and John Lasseter. No, Tom Skaggs and John Lasseter. And then Larry the Cable Guy introduces the land. Cars roll up and they turn on the lights and you can see it. It's great. It's a fun video. Was the song Life is a Highway played? It was played, yes. Perfect. Okay. Absolutely, it was played. Also, Baby, You Can Drive My Car. Oh, good.

[00:38:10] Yes. Yes. How about Freeway of Love? No. The Pink Cadillac. What's this song? The Freeway of Love, Wind Against Our Backs and Pink Cadillac. Aretha Franklin, I think. Anyway. No. Listen to boys planning if you like more of these moments. Yes. Okay. Us naming songs. Disagreeing on things. Yes.

[00:38:39] So, the land was designed, as I mentioned, a lot by Kevin Rafferty. There were a whole bunch of other people involved. Kathy Mangum, Roger Gould, Jennifer Mouch? Mouch? Mouch? I don't know how to pronounce her last name. We're involved in landscape, creative direction, all sorts of the designs of the land.

[00:39:05] It's not really stated who particularly came up with the Mater's attraction. But that's fine. We've got a whole panoply of folks working on it. And Dan, the attraction you were looking for is Francis' Ladybug Boogie. Oh, that's right. That was the name of the previous whip ride that was in Bugs Land. That was a two-turn table thing. We'll get to the actual land. So, yeah.

[00:39:33] Opening day was there. Larry the Cable Guy was there. It was a whole lot of fun. And... As it always is when Larry the Cable Guy's around. Exactly. Of course. And good times are still ahead to this day. There. That's the history. Jimmy, take it away. All right. So, first things first. The Toy Story Land originally was the backlot tour of the studio park.

[00:40:01] Which was a massive walking and tram tour that opened with the park in 1989. And then the tour was scaled down and then officially closed in 2014. Before a dedicated land was ever officially conceived for the Florida park, Pixar's presence in the area began May of 2008 with the opening of Pixar Place. Utilizing the brick facades of the park's old working sound stages, its headlining attraction was Toy Story Midway Mania.

[00:40:31] The area also featured a popular meet and greet space and a giant functioning audio animatronic of Pixar's mascot, the Luxo Jr. Lamp. To celebrate its 20th anniversary of the original Toy Story film, Bob J. Peck, author and then chairman of Disney Parks and Resorts, officially announced the creation of an 11-acre Toy Story Land on August 15, 2015 at D23.

[00:40:57] So, the storyline is rather than just walking past movie sets, Walt Disney Imagineers designed the land to shrink guests down to the size of a toy inside Andy's backyard. So, when you're in the land, you're the size of a toy, and in Andy's backyard, you can even see his footprints in the ground. They say Andy, I think. Anyway, they're footprints.

[00:41:19] To make room for the expansion, the historic Backlog Tour, which had been opening day, closed and demolished, and along with Streets of America, etc., etc. Why would they say Andy? He wrote it on with pen. Yeah, they would say Andy on the toy's feet, not on his feet. That's what I was thinking. It would make for a very interesting query into Andy's psychological state. Andy would be backwards. If he went in.

[00:41:46] No, I'm thinking that he goes in and writes his name on his shoes. Carves. On Sharpie. No, on the ground in Sharpie. After he took a step. Right. Sorry, I'm just picturing that in my head, but there's no Andy in the footprint. These are me. But the conceit is, you are the size of a toy. That's going to come in. It's going to be important later. So then the thing opened, the land opened in 2018 with Slinky Dog Dash, Alien Swirling Saucers, and Woody's Lunchbox.

[00:42:16] More stuff has been added since. Okay. So in the lore of Andy's backyard, Alien Swirling Saucers isn't just a random carnival ride. It's a specific play set that Andy won at Pizza Planet. And then he set it up in his backyard, combining his love for Buzz Lightyear's space aesthetic with the iconic Little Green Men. Now, the ride technology, it's called the classic whip amusement ride, and it was invented and patented in 1914 by William F. Mangels. No relation.

[00:42:45] Founder of the W.F. Mangels company on Kaleem F. Buckley, of course. He's not making an inappropriate joke about Nazis. That's right. While the modern junior version known as the Speedway Whip or Family Speedway Ride was developed by the Italian amusement manufacturer Zamperla. Zamperla. Yeah? It's an Argentinian company. Oh, no. Is it Argentine? No.

[00:43:15] No, I'm just kidding. Okay, good. Thank God. Yeah. Okay. So William Mangels, a German immigrant and pioneer in amusement park. Oh, well, maybe. Amusement park devices designed the ride to simulate the whip-like lateral snap of a vehicle or horse rounding a sharp corner. The classic ride features cars or gondolas guided along an oval or rectangular track by an endless motor-driven cable.

[00:43:43] As the cars move down the straightaways and whip around the rotating turntable platforms at each end, the loose pivoting design flings the cars outward with a sudden lateral G-force snap. Over 500 original Mangels whips were built and installed worldwide in amusement parks and traveling carnivals such as historic installations at Kennywood and Dorney Park. Dan? Sounds like you have something to say. I'm just really amused by what my brain's doing. Yeah, he's still giggling.

[00:44:10] I'm not allowing that part of my brain to be a part of this conversation. Okay. Keep going, please. Okay. So Antonio Zamperla was founded in 1966 in Italy by Antonio Zamperla. That's the SPA. You know what? We've been talking about the Tiki Room. You know what they need if they ever change it? In Italian. Just make them different stereotypes. That's it. Still done by white guys. Yeah, 100%.

[00:44:37] Building a global reputation on scaling down popular adult or classic flat rides into family and child-friendly attractions. That was Zamperla. Okay, so Zamperla adopted or adapted the core mechanical whip concept into a scaled-down junior slash family attraction.

[00:44:55] These rides often feature themed cars such as NASCAR-style race cars or tow trucks or alien spaceships that they spin and whip around compact ovals allowing younger children and parents to ride together and get smashed by larger men. Whoa. That was a reference to you earlier. Yeah. Both of these rides utilize a demolition derby-style track manufactured by Zamperla.

[00:45:22] However, Alien Swirling Saucers perfects it. The ride operates on a system of hidden rotating turntables beneath the floor. As your saucer moves from one spinning disc to the next, the switching point creates a sudden thrilling centrifugal whip effect. While Mater's version relies on a single repetitive acoustic style, Saucers elevates the tech with an immersive, bass-heavy, electronic sci-fi soundtrack.

[00:45:50] It features synthesizers and space-age remixes of classic Toy Story tracks like You've Got a Friend in Me. Uh-oh. What? I'm just, I'm not liking where this is going. And let the record show, these techno beats are entirely unnarrated by the voice of Larry the Cable Guy. Are you talking about the ride now or the history of the ride? It's the history of the ride. Okay. What's the dumb thing called again? Alien Swirling Saucers. Swirling Saucers.

[00:46:20] I have to, okay, keep going. I'm going to listen to the music. The end. Okay. I mean, I don't know if we're going to edit this out or what, or I suspect we're not because I, this is probably going to be amusing. Here we go. I found a video. I'm. Are you going to play some of the sounds?

[00:46:49] Uh, I can't do this. Zencaster doesn't really do that. Uh. It's the one weird thing you can do. You can't do it on your phone. Ride like the wind bullseye. No, if I'm going to listen. Okay. I am listening now to ride like the wind bullseye. I cannot hear my co-host because it's very loud. What I mean? Okay. Yep. It's exactly what I was fearing. Um. Oh God. Okay.

[00:47:15] Uh, if you've ever owned a Casio keyboard, um, you know what I'm hearing right now. There is a, there is a lead sound that sounds like it should not exist. Uh, there's whooshy things happening. Okay. I have my verdict on the music and the verdict is that Mater gets a point. I got incredibly excited. I haven't even talked about the music yet, Jimmy. And, and I got a point.

[00:47:45] So what, what does this say for your argument? Huh? I think what Jimmy didn't realize is that horrible electronic music versus Larry, the cable guy. I'm going to go watch Larry, the cable guy in concert over being exposed to that garbage. Um, okay. Who's next? Oh no. He's playing more.

[00:48:15] And on a phone with speakers. So that's even better. Yeah. You can't really talk. No, it's, it's bad. It's bad. Okay. Um, know your audience. Yeah. Yeah. It's, um, you, so you take this, take the sheet music from these things and you put it into a program that will convert it to MIDI and you just assign. Okay. This sounds futuristic. This sounds futuristic. This sounds futuristic. MIDI Hassan. Uh, no.

[00:48:43] MIDI in my D I, um, a, I'm just, I'm illustrating why bad electronic music exists. And this is a real thing. Um, you, you get like, you know, your nephew who has, I don't know, like some free download of some kind of electronic stuff and convert it to, to a MIDI file. Easy to do.

[00:49:09] Any computer can do it, load it, assign the instrumentation so that it just sounds like, sounds futuristic. I'm doing that. I'm doing that in air quotes. And then you go, eh, good enough. Render, send it out. And then a bunch of people who don't know anything about electronic music, because why would they listen to that and go, that sounds awesome. That sounds futuristic. Meanwhile, people who know things about electronic music are like, that's garbage.

[00:49:39] That is objectively garbage. That's, that's what's happening here. Anyway. There we go. It has been explained to all. Thank you. That was a very loaded point. You just got there. Wow. Well, the same goes for the Tomorrowland area music, which is why every time Fresh Baked David is like, I just love the music around here. I'm just like, why?

[00:50:10] Okay. Oh gosh. Your turn, Eric. Okay. Cue time. Wow. It's cue time. Everybody loves cue time. Unless you mean Anon. What? Oh no, of course not. No. Why would I, why would I say that people like that these days don't look into people's past. It's okay. I feel like the same amount of people that enjoy Larry, the cable guy. Whoa.

[00:50:41] All right. I'm not saying they're the same people. I'm just saying. I'm percentage wise. Oh my goodness. Well, hey. I hope your friend's doing okay, listener, by the way. Yes. Pat your friend on the shoulder. Tell them it'll, it'll all get better when it's. And say, and say, yeah, they're basically all like this. Yeah. Yeah. I hope this isn't the longest road trip you've been on. Yeah.

[00:51:11] Also friend of the listener. You're allowed to tell them you'd rather listen to something else. I don't want you to, but you can, you have agency here. Well, let's, let's keep moving before Dan gives people more brilliant ideas. Hey, Mater's facility. We're so this will, we'll get into a little bit of design here because the queue and the ride itself are all pretty much closely intertwined when it comes to, I guess, really both of these attractions.

[00:51:38] But when you walk into Cars Land, Mater's, Mater's junkyard is right there on the left. I didn't want to say right and left in the same sentence, but there we go. It's just as you enter route 66 and you, you walk past a, a weathered wooden sign that reads tow Mater, towing and salvage, just like in the movie. And it's, it's styled like, it looks like Mater.

[00:52:07] It's got old tires incorporated into the, into the design of the sign. And then you see a little sign off to the side that says Mater's junkyard jamboree, which is the name of this attraction. I don't know if you knew that, Dan. That's another fun fact. Yeah. Okay, good. The queue is a pretty simple queue. It winds through a shaded junkyard. There's rusty metal around, spare parts, barrels, hubcaps, license plates nailed to the walls.

[00:52:37] What does that mean? What is a, what is the license plate to the Cars cars? Hmm? Hmm. Like as far as the, the, the birthmark, birthmark. Oh, okay. So where I'm stuck on is where does baby cars come out? Uh, moving on there. It's a ramshackle sort of structure. Sure. Uh, it's all, it's all very well designed to look like a, a beat up old place, a beat up old junkyard.

[00:53:07] It's, it's homemade. Mater built this all, all himself, like his, his junkyard in the movie. And this is his location, uh, where he has trained baby tractors to, to dance for you. And you can ride in them. Again, we'll wait until the ride itself is there. You can see in the queue, his homemade junkyard jukebox, which is assembled from car parts, like everything else around here. There are car horns and mufflers and hubcaps.

[00:53:34] And then, uh, an array of stereos, car stereos in the center that are kind of cool. And that's apparently where all of the music is coming from. Uh, the, so I, because I, sorry, because I think this is probably going to be where we land in terms of what, where the major decisions, how do we feel about, and again, these are both ridiculous rides.

[00:54:02] So this is, they're going to warrant ridiculous questions. Okay. How do we feel about the things that are pulling you supposedly being living things? Uh, they're, they're farm animals. This, there's a petting zoo that's part of this area that is a baby tractor. Mm-hmm. So you've, have you ever been on a hayride? I have not been on a hayride.

[00:54:31] Well, that's, have you ever ridden a horse? I have ridden a horse on, once on stage, as a matter of fact. Oh, wow. A horse on stage. Same show, same character. Yep. Different nights. Yep. Wow. The, the show was called watch a high school student ride a horse. That's all it was. Is that like the original, that original film train drives that camera? Yes. That's right. It was exactly that.

[00:55:01] Curtain. Two hours of this, by the way. Well, it was, the thing was, it was, it lasted as long as it took for the horse to take a dump on stage and then the show was over. All the kids cheering. And I went on and did the same thing. Took a dump on stage. Yep. Sorry. Oh. And Dan was riding you then? Oh my, let's move on. Moving on. Moving on.

[00:55:25] Hey, there are beasts of burden apparently in the world of, of, of cars are, are tractors. I don't know why tractors are, are animals instead of, uh, instead of being intelligent. Well, because all living things are, are mechanical. Yeah. I suppose. So, I mean, my original quandary still stands, but. I feel great about it. I, okay.

[00:55:51] But, I mean, so, okay, we're, in this world, we are engaging in the, we don't know if Mater is, how his training methods are with these animals. We're going to assume they're good. Could a vegan ride this ride and feel okay with it? Well, you're not going to eat these tractors. But in the world of cars. Where I don't, we, and we again still haven't figured out, and I'm only saying this because

[00:56:20] I suspect Jimmy didn't hear this question. Where did the baby cars come out of? Yeah, he wasn't, he didn't hear it. You're still talking about the ride. I'm still talking about the queue here. Okay. Okay. Go for it. Sorry. We'll continue to ponder. Oh God. You're throwing in, you're throwing ideas out there for later on the show. We'll have some callbacks here. Yeah. Yeah. You can see the, speaking of which, you can see the attraction.

[00:56:45] You can, you can watch people ride in wagons behind these tractors while you are in the queue and from outside the queue. It's one of. So, okay. In fairness, if anyone has any ethical problems with the potential of animal exploitation, they could then get out of the queue. Or not even get in the queue. Yes. You've got time to consider it. In fact, we'll, we'll skip ahead here. The average wait time for this attraction is 17 minutes according to touring plans.

[00:57:15] Okay. Yeah. That's a 2026 historical average. It can be up to 40 minutes if the crowd level is high. There is no lightning lane listed for this attraction. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. True. Yeah. So you head into the queue.

[00:57:41] It separates into two sides where you go to the two separate operating platforms. And yeah, some, some hidden details and references to the film while you're in line. There are a bunch of posters from all of Mater's short films where he is always getting a different job. Because Mater is kind of like Mickey Mouse or Homer Simpson. He's always getting a different job and doing fun things like heavy metal Mater. Mater. He's a, he was a rock musician.

[00:58:12] Um, are these real things like. There's a whole series of Mater books and shorts and stuff that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So these are references to those shorts that are in the queue. Um, unidentified flying Mater. Um, oil cans and memorabilia are based on his encounter with a UFO in one short. Mater the Private Eye. He had a detective career.

[00:58:38] Um, there's a, there's a prop, um, in an office window that advertises his services. Um, Air Mater. He, there are a bunch of, uh, souvenirs from his time as a, a flying car. Uh, which would be great. There's a poster for Mater the Greater and other, other things, uh, referencing his career as a daredevil. Uh, there's El Mater door. He was a matador. If you couldn't figure that pun out.

[00:59:09] Um, man, DCA still liked puns even when it was moving into its second phase. Uh, license plates have different pun based county names like Rubberneck County, Rolling Stop, New Suspension, Torqueville. That's just all of the, some of the, the, the birthmarks as Dan called them on the wall. And then. That makes it more disturbing. Yeah. And that, that's kind of why I was hoping you'd say something disturbing.

[00:59:39] And you did. You, it totally worked. And then there's a reference to Pixar co-founder Ed Catmull, um, on, uh, on a sign called Catmull Oil. He was, um, one of the, the founders of Pixar and he gets an oil can. I'm assuming he's the one who didn't have such strong feelings for, feelings for hugs. Uh, no, no.

[01:00:04] In fact, I've read his, his book about leadership and the start of Pixar. He does not reference hugs at all. Okay, good. Yeah. Yeah. Very good one though. Um, what was the name of that one? Um, something about infinity, I think. Uh, yeah. And while you're in line, you can hear, you can hear all the songs. You can hear all the jokes that Mater says in between the songs. You're all right there.

[01:00:30] It's covered, but, um, you're right next to the attraction and you can see everything. You can see everything, Dan. And that's the cue. I still didn't see that movie. Okay. Okay. That's the cue. Um, I suspect that this is going to end up coming down to cue and shading and other things like that, but we're not there yet. No.

[01:00:55] Uh, Jimmy, now is your time to tell me and Eric and the listener and their friend and whoever might also be around about the cue. I cannot hear you. We can't hear you. Uh-oh. Here we go. Great. Hey. The cue at Alien Swirling Saucers establishes an unmatchable atmosphere. I'm not going to talk about the music.

[01:01:21] It acts as a giant nostalgic transition from Andy's lawn into the heart of a retro futuristic toy box. For example, right as you enter, look closely at the oversized toy packaging. You can see the actual instruction manual and blueprints for how Andy assembled the playset. You can see the massive toy lasers and structural columns. They are exact replicas of the futuristic geometric architecture found inside the original Pizza Planet from the movie.

[01:01:51] Scattered around the cue are giant plastic runners, using air quotes. Uh, these are the leftover framing pieces you get when you punch plastic model parts out of a brand new toy kit. Flanking the cue entrance are vintage-style Pizza Planet robot guards holding pizza-themed shields and weapons pulled straight from the movie.

[01:02:12] Uh, oh, there's a famous A113 Easter egg, which is a classic nod to CalArts graphic design and character animation classroom number. It's located in the queue that is Bay 1 and Bay 13 at Alpha, or excuse me, Airlock Alpha. There you go. Uh, the queue signage features playful toy packaging topography, including instructions and status labels like docking control and Operation Delta,

[01:02:40] as if you are inspecting a newly opened cardboard toy box. Uh, there are colorful illustrations and oversized elements of Buzz Lightyear and Outer Space Adventures line the path, designed to make guests feel like they're toy-sized inside Andy's backyard playset. And then, uh, the toy perspective, everything around you, from the bolts and the panels to the surrounding atmosphere,

[01:03:05] scaled to make it look like you are living out a game with the little green men, the claw aliens, if you will, and their glowing spinning saucers with an average wait time of 23 to 27 minutes. Ooh, okay. Uh, average wait time according to when and who and how are you, how are you getting that number? Um, it was from, uh, the thing with the Lentesta.

[01:03:35] Touring tour plans. Touring plans, yeah. Okay. Uh, so just, I mean, by the numbers, Mater deserves a point there because it's generally shorter and outside. Incredibly exciting. Well, that's the, that's the other thing. I think it's not, it's mostly covered. The shading is trees. Uh, how, I'm looking at pictures of... Alien Swirling Saucers is completely covered. Completely covered. Do they pipe in air conditioning or do they just hope that...

[01:04:05] No, fans and misters occasionally. Okay. Uh, I think Alien Swirly Pizza gets a point for that. All three different meanings to the word get or die. And as I'm looking at this, this isn't a point, it's just, well, it's a point, but not a point for the show. Um, it's weird that, like, the theming of this land, it's almost like in order for it to really feel like a toy scenario,

[01:04:34] they should have, like, missing decals. Because, you know, like, Grimber putting those play sets together, like, yours is like, ah, I'm done putting in decals. Um, should be crooked or once folded. Yeah, or they're bubbled, but then that would make it look like bad theme park. Yeah, that's exactly right. That's a balance. It's just a thought that I had. Yeah, we'll get into the land at some point. I think you're right, Eric. The lands, the Toy Story land and Radiator Springs, this probably makes sense. It'll be fun.

[01:05:02] But there's a lot of detail that are, that kind of speak to it being a child's backyard. Yeah, yeah. I just, it's, it was just a thought that I had as I was looking at it. I was like, oh, that would look really cool if, like, one of the decals was missing. But then someone writing it not fully knowing that it was a choice would be like, ah, decal's missing. This place is garbage. That's the Chester and Hester effect at Animal Kingdom. Yeah, exactly. I mean, we could, oh, wow.

[01:05:31] That, it's almost as though we could take that idea and do a longer episode about that one concept. Anyway, sorry, I'm the one with the hard out and I keep making this thing longer. Eric, you are next, I believe. What is your next thing? My next thing is the ride itself. Okay. Yes. We talked about Zamperla according to Coasterpedia.

[01:06:01] Yes, it identifies it as a Zamperla demolition derby modification. So instead of putting you into the standard stock ride vehicles, Disney developed little tractors that fit in with the theme of Cars Land. And these tractors. Cows that have been enslaved. Yes, yes, enslaved cows. And they all have very expressive eyes and lips. Each one. They look very sad.

[01:06:31] Has a. No, some of them have smiley lips. But yes. Some are happy to be there. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, they were. They love it. All day in the sun. They're all the brand chew all of tractor. That's their brand name. But yes, each each tractor has a different eye color and a different mouth on the front. If you've ever. I mean, it's easy to see the eyes.

[01:06:58] You always look at the eyes, but you may not notice that all of the mouths are different. I have not noticed that. Jimmy, do you have anything to compete with that? No, I'm sure. I haven't looked that up to see if the little green men are all different in some way. So I. I'm looking at them right now. And unless they took a picture, unless every picture from every website was of the exact same car, it looks like. I think by design, they're they're meant to be identical. Yeah, that. Oh, that's a good point.

[01:07:28] But again, that goes back to the Chester and Hester effect, I think. Which is what? That in order to make it thematically effective to what it's supposed to be, it kind of makes it look like it's less good. Maybe so. I think the point is that the the little green men in the movie are meant to be identical. Right.

[01:07:54] And so they may be a bunch of different little green men, but they're they look alike because that's how they're designed. I am. I am actually seeing some different expressions. So they might have. Yeah, that's a good point. Different expressions would make sense. Yeah. OK. So, OK. Even even points on that. Sorry, I keep going. Oh, that's good. If there's more. OK. The there is a little more, if you can imagine, coming from my mouth. The ride duration is.

[01:08:25] Originally, it was listed as 90 seconds. Touring plans has it listed as two minutes these days. They they might. It might just be kind of a rounding effect, like a kind of kind of a slow end to it. So maybe maybe when the ride turns off, it's 90 seconds. I don't know. It sure looks like it's about two minutes in the couple of videos that I watched. Ride vehicles, 22 tractors and trailers.

[01:08:51] You can usually fit two or three people into them, like two adults and a child or an adult and two kids. Pretty easy. Minimum height of 32 inches. There is one long safety belt that everybody gets to share so that Dan can slide into you. Mm hmm. Original. I was going to say, if you if you're there with two kids, if you sit in the middle, you can crush both of them. Yeah. Take them out, Dan. Just hold your hands up. Statistics are the same for the swirling saucers. Got it. Two inches. Thank you.

[01:09:21] Makes sense. Yeah. Same duration. Yeah. So about 600 guests an hour. Actually, let's pause here. Let's let's cover more of the same thing so we can get it out of the way. Same number of turntables. Mine has no. No. Alien's bigger. It's got two separate systems. Oh, so does. But so does Maters. Individually in the in the turntables, Maters has three, I believe, in in each section. Yeah.

[01:09:50] But there's what I'm saying is there's three times two. No, the same thing with Maters. OK, there's 22. Doesn't swirling saucers double it? Yeah. Yeah. I thought. Yeah. There's two separate rides. There's 22 ride vehicles, 11 vehicles per side. Oh. Oh, then that's the same. OK. I for some reason thought that alien swirling saucers was basically two Maters junkyard jamborees.

[01:10:18] Like the line split and you went to a different one. Completely. I think it's fair to say that there are two different. Yeah. But that's what Maters has. For some reason, I thought. I can't visualize it in my head. OK. So Maters has a total on both sides of six turntables. What about what does that mean for alien? Is that the same? Or does it have 22 ride vehicles? There's two sections of I think it's six. Hold on. OK.

[01:10:48] It sounds like they're the same written down. I guess so. 22 total ride vehicles evenly across two identical separate mirroring tracks. OK. 11 vehicles per side. Two to three riders. That sounds the same. OK. 44 to 66 people every few minutes. Listener, if we're incorrect, please call 856-R-EARS or send Jason an email. There we go. OK. What else is generally this?

[01:11:16] It's the same ride system across. But I mean, they look different. But it's the same. Different theming. Yeah. Eric, remind me if there's wacky thing. I'm looking at pictures right now so I can. So we can kind of just do this. Are there wacky things in the middle of each turntable? I don't remember. In Maiters? In Maiters, they're like oil drums. OK. And more junkyard junk. OK. There's junkhead stuff. Got it. OK.

[01:11:46] I think that covers. And the jukebox. The junkyard jukebox is off. But that's off to the side. And the track itself is not covered at Maiters. But it doesn't necessarily need to be because it's not in the scorching hot heat of Florida. Saturday. Yeah. When we were there. There's a giant claw, like from the claw machine. Right. In the center of each of the swirling saucers. Yeah. I mean, the effort seems kind of similar. Similar theme. Yeah. Yeah. OK. Sorry, Eric. I keep interrupting. No, it's OK.

[01:12:16] You're the judge. Direct us in the way that things go. So, yeah, I like that doing the similarities first. Because really, after that, I can't really think of anything else that would be the same. Yeah. You're right. I'm looking at an overhead shot. It is the same. OK. All righty. Well, there you go. OK. Samesies. Jimmy, anything not Samesies?

[01:12:46] Well, maybe not. I've got non-Samesies. Oh, you do? I'm sorry. You're not done? No. Well, you can go. I've got lots to talk about. Go ahead and talk. Well, all right. So, you're not just spinning. You're being towed by a screen-accurate, high-gloss toy alien in a custom rocket ship. The neon lighting designs creates a brilliant blur of color that Mater's dull brown color palette simply cannot match. OK.

[01:13:16] I want to get back into the conceptual thing here. OK. These aliens, they yearn to be led, I think, from the movie. Yes, that's correct. They are generally subservient by nature. Fair. They want to be sucked up by a claw. But does that make our exploitation of them OK? We're not riding the aliens. We're riding a rocket ship. That's true.

[01:13:45] Oh. They're in a rocket ship. And they're in a rocket ship. They're not a beast of burden. They're not. OK. There we go. That's a point for aliens. They're towing. There it is. Oh, three different meanings to the word. Get it in. OK. OK. I'm glad we found it. So basically, I can finish because, you know, effectively, we've covered the ride. Just a couple of little fun facts. If you look at that, I've mentioned it before.

[01:14:12] Look at the loading zones directly above the central pillars, the massive menacing, the claw hanging from the ceiling, waiting to choose its next victim. And then as you exit the ride and look back at the concrete ground markings in the intersecting turntable lines, the geometric layout reveals a massive stylized abstract hidden Mickey integrated right into the ride mechanics. Oh, you're attempting to give us a spite point. I know what I'm doing.

[01:14:37] As you slide across the vinyl seat, getting whipped around the corners, you can enjoy the interstellar sound effects completely free of any country fried ad libs because Larry the cable guy has zero jurisdiction in this sector of the galaxy. Are you trying to lose this? No. It was fun. Oh, jealousy.

[01:15:08] Okay. Okay. Are we at land impact? No, no, we've got plenty more ride left. Oh, okay. All right. All right. I'll try to make it quick, but because it is mostly music, but then there's more after that. Yeah. I feel like you're, you're just willfully going on a tightrope right now. Hey, I've done it before. And I'll do it again. Okay. That's fine.

[01:15:32] I was not going to speak about the holiday overlays, but there is some Christmas music, you know, Christmas time. They have some holiday festive music. Well, I was going to talk about holiday overlays as well. Do they, do they both have that? Yes. Okay. So. Here, we'll talk about holiday overlays real quick. There's a Halloween and a Christmas overlay for Mater. Of course there is. It's the Halloween.

[01:16:03] H-A-U-L. Mater's graveyard jamboree and the jingle jamboree. Yeah. But they have decorations. Whereas I don't think Swirling Saucers gets any overlay decorations. They get decorations and they get new songs too. Yes. Do they get new songs for the alien thing? Yes. Yes. Okay. Do they have both the holidays represented or are they reasonable? Just Christmas. Okay.

[01:16:32] And by both, do you mean Christmas and Hanukkah or you mean Christmas and Halloween? Yes. Christmas and Hanukkah. Okay. Um, okay. I'm torn here because I don't like holiday overlays, but it's not like there's a story here. Would it, would it help? I, I, I know this is also, I'm now jumping up and down on the tightrope. Okay.

[01:16:56] But for the holiday songs for both holidays, they also brought Larry, the cable guy and Billy Hill and the hillbillies back to record songs. I didn't know that Billy Hill and the hillbillies recorded the entire song list. Okay. Awesome. Okay. Mater gets a point for mater for me. You can have one of my, Billy's and also, even though I really dislike holiday overlays,

[01:17:25] I don't think a holiday, I think in, in a, with a ride like this more holiday overlays, the better almost because it's not like, Oh no, this ruins the third act of the story. It's, it's just, you're just spinning around. Yeah. Unlike haunted mansion, it's still a mater's junkyard jamboree. Right. Right. Right. It doesn't, doesn't detract. It just adds. Um, and you still have layer, the cable guy, which I mean, say what you will, but it'd be

[01:17:54] better than them not doing that. I think. Um, so, okay. Eric, you still have more ride. Uh, I can, well, it's not, we, we do need to get wrapping up here, but suffice it to say, like I said, there are, well, there, there are a lot of different songs. Uh, there, there are eight songs. I feel like it, I feel like you're pushing it, but go, go for it. You might want to load up an objection against yourself is all I'm saying.

[01:18:23] I'm, I'm just listing the facts here. Okay. Just listing facts. He's a completist. I wanted to point out that our, our venerable, um, uh, network predecessor ears up hyphen podcast did an episode on this and point and stated that. So one of the songs is a blooper for the, for the purposes of Eric still possibly winning this thing.

[01:18:50] I'm just going to say, if you would like to listen to that episode, you can, or I fear Eric's going to continue and put me in an interesting place. Uh, point wise, which is his choice. So if you'll. My goodness. Wait until you hear the thing before you judge the thing. I'm just, I'm me. I'm trying to make the show more entertaining. That's okay. Okay. Sure. That's entertaining. Threatening the, the, the, the lawyers. What are we?

[01:19:19] You're not a real lawyer. Well, that's good. I feel like that could get me somewhere. I'm not a real judge. I like listener. This is all fake. I'm playing a character. I actually love the Beatles as everyone knows. Anyway, as everybody knows, there's a bonus track, uh, that features made her singing the wrong lyrics to welcome to radiator Springs.

[01:19:44] And that is because it, people have said, Oh, it's because Larry, the cable guy forgot what the lyrics were when he was recording it. It's actually because Kevin Rafferty forgot the words when he recorded a demo, uh, for, for, I guess the musicians, he, he recorded a demo of the song that he wrote and, um, had the wrong lyrics in there and him just making up nonsense. And they decided to create a real version of that. That plays once an hour or so.

[01:20:14] It's the eighth song. And, uh, they had Larry, the cable guy repeated with the messed up lyrics. I do love that detail. I think I've given enough points in that general direction, but that's just a funny little thing. I legitimately do love that detail. And yeah, it's, it makes me wonder if perhaps Larry, the cable guy or the comedian playing

[01:20:36] him, there might be more there, there, but probably not, um, speaking more, more there, there, we have more rides still, or are we talking about land impact? Uh, no, let's go to the land impact. If you want to hear all of the songs, you can find them on various Disney albums, including the entire Halloween soundtrack, which is on, which, which has, uh, Luigi's songs from,

[01:21:02] uh, the new, the new version of the Luigi attraction for the science. The alien swirling saucers has 10 songs. Oh, well. And they all sound the way that they sound. Are any of them sung by Tony Shalhoub? Well, yeah, I was going to say that. I feel like given his career, Tony Shalhoub could voice all the songs. All four of the new host birds in the revamp. Hey, he's ethnic looking enough.

[01:21:31] This bird's from the inner city. Oh, geez. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Okay. The land impact, Eric, or if you're tired of talking, we can pass it to Jimmy. Uh, land impact. I'm just going to say, uh, Mater belongs at the entrance of, of this, this area. He's right at the beginning of route 66. He's a beloved character from the cars franchise. Come on.

[01:22:00] He's a, they hired Owen Wilson. And you, you think like, I mean, obviously people like lightning McQueen, but they got a real hit on their hands with, uh, with tow mater. They're, they don't, you don't have a whole series of shorts with anybody else. You don't get, uh, um, Tommy Chong doing a series of shorts from his, from Phil Moore. Uh, you get Larry, the cable guy doing Phil Moore was, uh, was, um, a comedian.

[01:22:29] Um, you know, the things you can't say. Oh, that was George Carlin. George Carlin. Not Tommy Chong. Sorry. I'm messing up. It was Luigi's, uh, Guido. No, Luigi. It's Cheech Marin. No, that's Ramon. Oh, whatever. Anyway, keep going. Oh, there we go. That's why I'm thinking Cheech and Chong. Okay. Luigi's totally Shalhoub. That's right.

[01:22:56] I don't, I don't know if my, if this at the entrance to Cars Land is actually the best place for it because, and I'm not trying to argue it. I'm not, this isn't point or not point, but in my mind, I think if you were to put it more internal, it would work better. And it might give the sad people waiting in line for Radiator Springs something to look at other than other people having fun on the ride that they're waiting for.

[01:23:24] I suppose that's fair, but it does give you an option right as you walk in. And here's an option where the entire family can hop in a quick line and you can see the entire, the entire road, see the entire town and immediately get the gratification of waiting in line for a short period of time and writing something. That's true. And that whole court, that whole corridor is so loud. So is the, the ride, but. Right.

[01:23:50] I'm just thinking you go from Marvel, like you pass through Marvel, pass by Marvel and you get blasted with copyright infringement. And then you hear Mater, Mater sing at you. And then weirdly enough, the, the really not good music of the, that corridor area is like weirdly satisfying. It, it's also objectively bad music, but it's like, oh, okay. Thank you.

[01:24:20] Oh, you mean like the guitar? Yeah. Yeah. It's not a guitar. It's again, MIDI, but yeah. Yeah. Okay. Any more land impact? Sorry. It, it's a fully themed land and it fits into the theme of, of the land. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I can't argue with that. It doesn't, it doesn't not fit. Right. But Jimmy might be able to, because he's the opposition. Jimmy, go for it. Yes. So your honor.

[01:24:50] Yes. A great ride must serve its land. Okay. And alien swirling saucers is the literal heartbeat of Toy Story Land. This is about the music. No. Okay. Positioned right across from Slinky Dog Dash. Oh my gosh. Saucers provides the crucial kinetic energy that makes the land feel alive. Oh my God. The bright purples, the deep blues, the neon greens break up the green toy brick monotony of the backyard.

[01:25:19] At night, Toy Story Land transforms and saucers is the crown jewel. The glowing canopy lights reflect off the spacesuits of the aliens, turning the entire corner of Hollywood Studios into a vibrant, glowing space rave. It brings a sleek, futuristic nightlife vibe to Hollywood Studios that DCA's dusty radiator springs simply lacks. Okay. Mm-hmm. Now which one of us is still like...

[01:25:53] I mean, I appreciate the hyperbole. Yeah. Well, it's, you know, it's, I don't know. It's a, the whole land is his backyard. You can see the fence of the backyard around the perimeter kind of creating its little berm. The, the, the roller coaster is a toy box or a toy that he put together. The alien swirling saucers is a toy he put together.

[01:26:18] Um, Woody's lunchbox is a lunchbox and the, um, you know, the Toy Story Mania, which is interesting when that, it was Pixar Place before that's where the entrance was. They had to like totally reverse the entrance to Toy Story Land. Mm-hmm. Um, and that's, you know, you're walking through his bedroom and it's, anyway, it fits with the land. And it does actually add a lot of kinetic energy. I think maters, you can't really see from the road because there's a lot of trees, if I'm not mistaken. You can, but it's not, I mean, you could see that there is something moving in there.

[01:26:49] Um, and so it, it adds, it does add a lot of fun vibrancy and kinetic energy and color and, um, you know, everything I said, but just less hyperbolic. Yeah. Um, anything else before I start? Doing that thing that I do. I can grasp at a straw. I mean, we have closing arguments, don't we?

[01:27:14] So before we do, yeah, we have closing arguments, but before we take too many risks here, uh, Mater currently has four points and the alien ride has two. Ooh. So, um, but yeah, if it's straw grasping is something we want to do, go for it. I'm all ears. It's something that I missed in when I was talking about the ride. Ultimately. Yeah. But hey, we can grasp at a straw.

[01:27:41] Kevin Rafferty during a D23 presentation in 2013, uh, it said that Mater's is the first and only Disney ride with a dedicated joke button on its operating console. So if the ride is taking too long to load, you can hit a button and, uh, Tow Mater will tell a joke. Okay. That's mixed. Uh, he automatically tells jokes, but you can add in additional jokes. Okay.

[01:28:11] If I, I'll just, I'll just do the conceit. Okay. How about this? I'm going to award alien ride. Like one point for not having Larry, the cable guy. I wouldn't do this. If you weren't, if you weren't already ahead, I would not do this, but I think to be noted. Okay. So now that that's done, I feel the record, Kevin Rafferty was directly involved in the toy story land also. Oh yeah.

[01:28:40] Well, he's not the one telling the jokes. Fair enough. That would be awesome. That'd be amazing to have some like imagineer who doesn't know how to deliver a joke. Like, uh, how many, how many hubcaps does the, sorry, uh, radiator spring or how many hubcaps is a radiator spring? Yeah. Right. Or you go. Hey everybody. What part of the card? Anyway. Um, but I also want to give Mater a point for the joke button.

[01:29:09] And I don't love what it produces, but I love, love that it exists. Um, okay. I'm ready for your final, uh, closing statements. If you're ready to give them to me with or without golden dreams, uh, by the way, let it be noted, no extra points for using golden dreams. However, I will take it into account. What about golden showers? Even better. I'm sorry.

[01:29:39] So far, I don't think anything needs to be edited out. I'm just saying. I don't think so either. No, no, not this one. Okay. I'm still working on the last one. Oh God. What? I don't think we said anything terrible. No, nothing too terrible. I'm just doing it for comedic effect. Cause I love putting Supreme in there somewhere. Okay. Perfect. Yeah. I just haven't finished it yet, but Hey. Uh, let's see.

[01:30:04] I'm going to say, Jimmy, you have the most to prove and or the most to lose, depending on how you look at it. Would you like to deliver your closing statement first or last? Still can't hear you. Oh, what's he doing? Let it be known. Hey, there it goes. That I truly don't care.

[01:30:34] But the jury of the Supreme resort, the evidence is undeniable. Undeniable. And their friend. And their friend. Alien Swirling Saucers takes a brilliant piece of ride engineering and wraps it in flawless Pixar nostalgia, brilliant neon aesthetics, and hidden details that reward the sharpest eyes. It turns a simple flat ride into an immersive sci-fi escape.

[01:31:01] It elevates Toy Story Land from a simple backyard into a glowing energetic masterpiece. It really does. Mater's Junkyard Jamboree gives you some brown dirt, rusty tractors, and a relentless auditory assault of bad puns. Alien Swirling Saucers gives you the infinite cosmos, the eternal glory of the claw, and a flawless soundtrack. Why?

[01:31:27] Because space is the final frontier, and Larry the Cable Guy is not an alien swirling saucers, the defense rests. Okay. You're really close to getting disbarred about that music. Wow. That would have a bigger effect than... Yeah. Well, there you know. There you know that quality control exists in electronic music. Eric.

[01:31:56] By the way, Eric, I'm curious. Now that you know more about electronic music from the Bowie's Planning Podcast, would you have thought to say that that music was good? It kind of falls into the realm of... No, I mean, it really is, like you say, it's just somebody taking Disney music and making it beepy and boopy. Right.

[01:32:24] It's not particularly interesting, except from the value of, oh, I know that song. Yeah. Oh, Randy Newman. And others. There's a Taylor Swift song in there. They could have had his brother Gary Newman do it. Oh. Anyway. Or his Uncle Paul. All right, Eric. I love his dressing. None of my proceeds go to charity.

[01:32:54] Okay, Eric, let's go ahead. Yeah, I'm not sure that I can wing three minutes of this, so we'll just go for it without the closing music. Oh, okay. As so many stories begin in Disney lore, a man had a vision. Then another man had a vision. Then a bunch of people envisioned their visions of the story. The story was a land of living cars.

[01:33:22] A cartoon come to life in a California adventure. Welcoming you to this vista, an ambassador. Mater's Junkyard Jamboree is a simple ride with great results. Spin. Swing. Whip. Laugh. You're not laughing at Mater himself, maybe, but he's still a part of this, isn't he? This is Mater's turf and it shows.

[01:33:48] Your old pal made a place for tractors to dance and for fleshy humanoids to be dragged along behind them. So come on. Here you go. Music swells, Jimmy. So come on. Celebrate the seasons with Mater. And celebrate fun times. And celebrate cars in California. Ooh, America. You must be.

[01:34:19] There we go. That was it. Thanks, Jimmy. For the record, if we were to have a TikTok or YouTube shorts presence, that would be what most of our clips would be. Anyone telling us. Golden dreams played over anything we say. Anyone telling us that we should do that, just keep in mind that you know in your heart of hearts we would pick the worst parts of the show.

[01:34:48] It'd be hard to choose. I don't usually click on the button to record video. Right. No, that's fine. Okay. Everyone, I think you see this coming. Even though it promotes animal cruelty and we can see it in the sad, sad eyes of the cows. And we still don't know that question that I'm not going to repeat because the more I repeat it, the more it becomes potentially a liability. But you know what it is.

[01:35:17] And now that I've said it. Yeah. Now that I've said it, you can't stop thinking about it. You're welcome. And also thank you to Toe Mater for being voiced by Larry the Cable Guy who sings these delightful songs to us at the winning attraction, Mater's Junkyard Jamboree at Disney's California Adventure.

[01:35:47] Soak City Water Raging Day. I'm excited too, Bob. Okay. Yay, I won the thing. Yay. See, it wasn't a bit. Legitimately too. And yeah, it's funny. The more I think about the alien thing, I think its biggest liability is the conceit that they're bringing that it is what it is.

[01:36:17] I'm not saying that they haven't done that theming well of, you know, it's Andy's toys just strewn about. But I think that actually, I think that what could really help that is if they were to build like little, maybe like the attractions don't have signs of like childlike laziness in them. But like maybe some parts are uneven, you know, like structurally.

[01:36:44] Well, you see it in the, I mean, the instructions are just kind of propped around and you've got stuff laying around that part of the queue, but it's just leftover building blocks and materials from the toy. And then same with, we're not talking about this, but the same thing with Slinky Dog Dash is that there's slapdash stuff around and child art and stuff. So it's there. I get that.

[01:37:11] I just feel like they could make it more, they could lean into the back. I've never been to this land. I don't know if they do this or not, but I feel like they could lean in really hard to the backyard aspect of it. But, and have like, I think that they do, but I think that maybe there could be like a ride that like is in a really like overgrown area that kind of smells like, you know, dog crap or something.

[01:37:36] And, you know, it's like, it's like a really old ride that it's like cool, but it's just like, no, I like it's, it could just even be an old Ferris wheel. It's a rusty Tonka truck somehow. Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. Dad gave you. Yeah. And like, like, yeah, a rusty Tonka trunk, Tonka truck, like, like playground area where like there's like standing water that you can play. You mean the Honey, I Shrunk the Kids.

[01:38:06] Yeah. Yeah. They could place that ground. They could add a touch more. I don't know. I think that we all did great. I think the show is great. Yeah, it is. I think your, your friend is great. I don't know why you did, you, you tricked them into listening to the mini lecture that I gave to them. I don't think that's fair. I think that says a lot about your relationship. I think you need, you need to be more direct with them. Mm hmm.

[01:38:34] Um, but you know, this is what we're here for. Um, let's see. We, there's other shows. Uh, there are lots of other shows. Uh, there are other mediums, but we're talking about podcasts and we're talking about our network. Uh, I've already talked about Bowie's planning a couple of times. That was sneaky. Uh, that's on our network, but you're still allowed to listen to it. Uh, we put out episodes occasionally.

[01:38:59] Um, if you're listening to the show and you're thinking, I want to hear what happens when Dan and Eric do a podcast together and it's like three hours long and they're talking about David Bowie. That's, that's what you get. That's your choice. That's, that's the only one. That's the podcast. You can put it together. Um, let's see. Uh, Jimmy is smartly not in any other podcasts. He made that choice. And I think that's a strong one. Uh, however, there are other podcasts on the network. You can listen to, uh, ears up.

[01:39:27] That, which Eric is also on. Yep. Uh, if you want to find out why ears up in depth is no longer being recorded, you could listen to those old episodes and you'll figure it out. Uh, we have puny pod. They talk about Marvel movies. They're rewatching the Marvel movies. Are they still doing that? Yes. You actually, okay. Uh, they're probably on like, I think they're just watching in game over and over again. Um, hopefully not. That was the longest episode I've ever recorded. It's longer now.

[01:39:58] Right. Um, I don't know. We've got to do it again. Jimmy's watching vision quests. So am I, uh, there's also milk, milk lemonade around the corner of Bantamalk, uh, also has Bantamalk podcast because we used to make fun of them for that. The name that they used to have, but we still do. Um, and you can also listen to spokes.

[01:40:20] We made admission of that where you can hear Marie tell the story, the true story of Jimmy's lost water bottle, lost and found. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and also the hub crawl, which is the spokes is a answer to the hub crawl. Uh, let's see. You can also listen to fantasy land draft league, fantasy land draft league. I have a feeling that at some point the dirty little strap may make, make a comeback. Oh, now that Bob J. Beck is doing media things.

[01:40:50] He's back in the limelight. Yeah. He's back in the limelight. I see no reason why he wouldn't do that, especially now that people have heard more of his voice. It's not what you expect, right? No, not at all. Yeah. It's very weak. I expect more like a, it was kind of soothing. Yeah. But like, he's like, he's like a little baby voice. It's, it's interesting. Anyway. Um, as you, this is what a CEO sounds like. I don't know.

[01:41:20] Yeah, that is what it is. Well, and Eric, do you have available what another CEO sounds like? Uh, I will. A certain other. Yeah. That's, that's what he, that's what he sounds like. How do I not have that loaded? Oh my goodness. I don't know. I'm slipping. Anyway, while he's loading that, uh, I want to say here, I've got this loaded. That is not a C that would be a CEO. I would follow to the depths of hell. Um, anyway, goodbye.

[01:41:50] We love you. Good to each other. Be good to each other. Ba da ba ba ba ba. Reserve is adjourned. Reserve is adjourned. Goodbye.

[01:42:25] Um, like 45 minutes ago, you guys could hear like every other word. Oh God. In my internet so bad. So I missed so much because I couldn't, it's so spotty. I don't know why. Oh gosh. Sorry about that. I was like, let's, let's get this over with because I can't hear what you're saying anyway. Yeah. That's fine. You didn't miss much. Uh. Good job, Eric. Thanks. You too.

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